Did the Creator create himself?

[PaxThroughX]

Did the Creator create himself? If you ever talked to an evolutionist or just said in reference to the "Big Bang Theory," that if we all came from an egg or fish then where did they come from? Well then where did the Creator come from? Scriptures would be helpful

 

[blessedxo]

I wonder the same thing too..

 

[jobbomb6]

Our minds cannot simply handle the thought of the creation of our GOD. He simply was, is, and is to come. He is real and he is also our GOD. We should believe in him and his son JESUS that died on the cross for us. Don't doubt the LORD.

 

[PaxThroughX]

Our minds cannot simply handle the thought of the creation of our GOD. He simply was, is, and is to come. He is real and he is also our GOD. We should believe in him and his son JESUS that died on the cross for us. Don't doubt the LORD.

Is doubt the same thing as learning? I am aware of the fact of what we can and cant handle as imperfect beings. However, you just dismissed my question.

 

[mathetes123]

Did the Creator create himself? If you ever talked to an evolutionist or just said in reference to the "Big Bang Theory," that if we all came from an egg or fish then where did they come from? Well then where did the Creator come from? Scriptures would be helpful

Only things that have a beginning require a cause outside of themselves. Things that have no beginning do not require a cause. God did not have a beginning. He created time, lives outside of time and is not subject to time.

 

[PaxThroughX]

Only things that have a beginning require a cause outside of themselves. Things that have no beginning do not require a cause. God did not have a beginning. He created time, lives outside of time and is not subject to time.

So to translate. He created himself. How it happened Is beyond our capacity of knowledge, right?

 

[DMMullinax]

As you said, He's the Creator. We have a beginning because we are creation and came into existence at a certain point. Being the Creator, He doesn't fall under the same restrictions as we do. He didn't have to be created or have a beginning. He just always was.

 

[PaxThroughX]

As you said, He's the Creator. We have a beginning because we are creation and came into existence at a certain point. Being the Creator, He doesn't fall under the same restrictions as we do. He didn't have to be created or have a beginning. He just always was.

True, but how do you tell an Evolutionist that? Just the part of where He came from can make someone lose their mind. Its like faith is what is needed to truly believe in G-d. Not saying there is not a lot of evidence of His existence, because there is.

 

[DMMullinax]

True, but how do you tell an Evolutionist that? Just the part of where He came from can make someone lose their mind. Its like faith is what is needed to truly believe in G-d. Not saying there is not a lot of evidence of His existence, because there is.

I'm not really sure, honestly. It's a hard thing to convey, especially if they want objective physical evidence. It's a concept, and an untestable one at that. But many concepts and ideas we do have to take in faith, not conceding that they are illogical, but that there's no way of absolutely proving it. We have other evidences that seem to point to a truth, but no physical evidence of the truth itself.

For some that's unimaginable, but some questions don't find an answer in the format they want, at least not in this life.

 

[PaxThroughX]

I'm not really sure, honestly. It's a hard thing to convey, especially if they want objective physical evidence. It's a concept, and an untestable one at that. But many concepts and ideas we do have to take in faith, not conceding that they are illogical, but that there's no way of absolutely proving it. We have other evidences that seem to point to a truth, but no physical evidence of the truth itself.

For some that's unimaginable, but some questions don't find an answer in the format they want, at least not in this life.

Well it must really be something us imperfect beings can't handle. If G-d wants us to know every little detail about creation he would have shown us already, but that is if we can even comprehend it. I personally think it is more logical to believe in the unimaginable when if you just look at the constellations at night, it is a work of art from a great artist. Paintings don't just appear without an artist. Same concept, who has search through the infinite universe to claim that there is no Creator?

 

[mathetes123]

So to translate. He created himself. How it happened Is beyond our capacity of knowledge, right?

Read it again. God had no beginning and therefore had no need for a creator. Only things that have a beginning require a cause. You are attempting to box God into the limitations of His own creation.

 

[mathetes123]

Well it must really be something us imperfect beings can't handle. If G-d wants us to know every little detail about creation he would have shown us already, but that is if we can even comprehend it. I personally think it is more logical to believe in the unimaginable when if you just look at the constellations at night, it is a work of art from a great artist. Paintings don't just appear without an artist. Same concept, who has search through the infinite universe to claim that there is no Creator?

The heavens declare His glory.

 

[Girder of Loins]

You are asking an unanswerable question. We don't know the laws governing God's universe, or if He even exists within a universe. Could He be some advanced alien from another universe with different laws that somehow spawned a universe and is running a simulation? We don't know. We know only what He shows us, and what He will show us. It will all make sense in the end.

 

[PaxThroughX]

Read it again. God had no beginning and therefore had no need for a creator. Only things that have a beginning require a cause. You are attempting to box God into the limitations of His own creation.

Wasnt my intent. When you say the Creator has no beginning, can you support that by scriptures? I am curious!

 

[PaxThroughX]

You are asking an unanswerable question. We don't know the laws governing God's universe, or if He even exists within a universe. Could He be some advanced alien from another universe with different laws that somehow spawned a universe and is running a simulation? We don't know. We know only what He shows us, and what He will show us. It will all make sense in the end.

I sure hope so. Again can you provide scriptures. Not for my benefit only, but for others as well.

 

[Jake255]

Wasnt my intent. When you say the Creator has no beginning, can you support that by scriptures? I am curious!

Hi Pax,

Here is scripture, everlasting to everlasting, no beginning and no end.

Psalm 90:2 (NASB95)
2 Before the mountains were born
Or You gave birth to the earth and the world,
Even from everlasting to everlasting, You are God.



Here is another one:

Revelation 1:8 I am the Alpha and the Omega--the beginning and the end," says the Lord God. "I am the one who is, who always was, and who is still to come--the Almighty One."

And one more:
Psalm 93:2 (NASB95)
2 Your throne is established from of old;
You are from everlasting.



Hope they help!

 

[PaxThroughX]

Hi Pax,

Here is scripture, everlasting to everlasting, no beginning and no end.

Psalm 90:2 (NASB95)
2 Before the mountains were born
Or You gave birth to the earth and the world,
Even from everlasting to everlasting, You are God.



Here is another one:

Revelation 1:8 I am the Alpha and the Omega--the beginning and the end," says the Lord God. "I am the one who is, who always was, and who is still to come--the Almighty One."

And one more:
Psalm 93:2 (NASB95)
2 Your throne is established from of old;
You are from everlasting.



Hope they help!

Yes greatly. Thank you!