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We don't currently have that technology, no. We once had the technology, now we don't. We don't currently have any Saturn 5-power rockets lying around, for instance.I am inclined to believe that we did not put men on the moon. I watched a NASA video with some nasa official in uniform talking about we do not have the technology to go through the belt yet. SO if we dont have the technology now then we didnt have it in 1969.
They dont care that people now know it was a lie to upstage the Russians. Sputnik scared them so they cooked up a lie.
But that NASA guy looked very credible.
We don't currently have that technology, no. We once had the technology, now we don't. We don't currently have any Saturn 5-power rockets lying around, for instance.
In the early 80s, when I was on the staff of the Strategic Air Command office that managed the SR-71 reconnaissance aircraft, it was rather grating to realize we no longer had the technology to build any more copies of an aircraft that had originally been build in the early 60s. The planes we had then would be all we'd ever have because all the original tooling had been destroyed, all the original engineers were retired or dead. It would have taken another decade to re-engineer and re-tool...and re-learn a lot of lessons.
We know such a thing is possible, but we'd have to re-engineer it all over again...kind of like the way we had to re-invent concrete after forgetting how the Romans did it.
I am inclined to believe that we did not put men on the moon. I watched a NASA video with some nasa official in uniform talking about we do not have the technology to go through the belt yet. SO if we dont have the technology now then we didnt have it in 1969.
They dont care that people now know it was a lie to upstage the Russians. Sputnik scared them so they cooked up a lie.
But that NASA guy looked very credible.
We don't currently have that technology, no. We once had the technology, now we don't. We don't currently have any Saturn 5-power rockets lying around, for instance.
In the early 80s, when I was on the staff of the Strategic Air Command office that managed the SR-71 reconnaissance aircraft, it was rather grating to realize we no longer had the technology to build any more copies of an aircraft that had originally been build in the early 60s. The planes we had then would be all we'd ever have because all the original tooling had been destroyed, all the original engineers were retired or dead. It would have taken another decade to re-engineer and re-tool...and re-learn a lot of lessons.
We know such a thing is possible, but we'd have to re-engineer it all over again...kind of like the way we had to re-invent concrete after forgetting how the Romans did it.
Yeah I heard that too. We had technology and lost it. That sounds pretty thin to me. I watched a NASA guy say we didnt have the technology then and we dont have it nw but theyre working on it. So they can send men to mars.
If it was that easy to shield the craft from radiation in the 60's then they wouldnt still be working on it now lol. So why would they even lie about it? Oh I don't know billions and billions of dollars in funding maybe? Just a thought.
Forgive me, but that makes no sense. Firstly, I doubt you understood the NASA presentation; NASA officials do not wear uniforms, by the way, only astronauts, security guards, and workers at the launch complexes wear uniforms. And the Van Allen Belts, which I assume you are referring to, are plural. So my guess is you saw something you did not understand; perhaps whoever was speaking was talking about manned flight beyond the Asteroid Belt, which lies between Mars and Jupiter, and we do not have the technology yet to efficiently take a manned spacecraft that far out.
Actually we do have the technology once more, in the form of the SLS being used for the Artemis mission. It completed an unmanned flight, and preparations are being made for a manned flight at some point next year, which will return us to the moon.
That's not what he said.Yeah I heard that too. We had technology and lost it. That sounds pretty thin to me. I watched a NASA guy say we didnt have the technology then
Right, but that happens to be false. There is no issue in shielding space crews from the radiation in the Van Allen belts. That technology is simply not lost.
The only thing we might have lost are steel works capable of building the massive F1 engines that were used to launch the spacecraft.
By the way, since NASA spent the billions of dollars in funding on spacecraft the launches of which were viewed by millions, and also the recovery of the capsules, and since independent observers were able to track the spacecraft during their journey to the moon, the idea that we faked it is pretty…shaky, to put it mildly.
Indeed its not shaky, it is patently absurd.
That's not what he said.
[/QUOTE]Actually we do have the technology once more, in the form of the SLS being used for the Artemis mission. It completed an unmanned flight, and preparations are being made for a manned flight at some point next year, which will return us to the moon.
That's what I mean when I say we don't "have" the technology. We can have the knowledge, the science, but without the hardware, we don't have the technology. As an example, we can take something like flush riveting in aircraft or wide-bodied jets. Those weren't super secrets, but for many years the Soviets didn't have the ability to duplicate what was common practice in the US...they didn't have the technology. In the early 80s, it was funny to me that the Soviets were attempting to buy all the Speak-and-Spell toys could lay their hands on for voice warning indicators in their top-line fighter jets...because they didn't even have the technology to duplicate the voice chips. They had to cannibalize them. And for us...those were just toys.Additionally SpaceX is making slow but steady progress with their Starship program, which would also provide a very heavy lift option which would enable even more Lunar explanation.
The Van Allen belts are not the problem; we never really lost the Saturn V technology, but we might have lost the manufacturing capability to build liquid fueled rocket engines as large as the F1.
Your first proposition is in error. We did not have the technology to pull that deception in 1969.So if they had the technology to deceive the world about the moon landing in 1969 then with today's technology should be able to do it effortlessly, or fake it even better than last time. You can't trust anything that you hear nowaydays and only half of what you see! So with the CGI we should be "seeing" a manned mars mission very soon! Right? But they're too busy trying to start WW III instead.
Your first proposition is in error. We did not have the technology to pull that deception in 1969.
I am going to bite my tongue.Nice of you to presume that I would be that stupid, lol.
This thread is not about now, this thread is about then.Maybe not. I'd bet even money thatthey do now though.
That's what I mean when I say we don't "have" the technology. We can have the knowledge, the science, but without the hardware, we don't have the technology. As an example, we can take something like flush riveting in aircraft or wide-bodied jets. Those weren't super secrets, but for many years the Soviets didn't have the ability to duplicate what was common practice in the US...they didn't have the technology. In the early 80s, it was funny to me that the Soviets were attempting to buy all the Speak-and-Spell toys could lay their hands on for voice warning indicators in their top-line fighter jets...because they didn't even have the technology to duplicate the voice chips. They had to cannibalize them. And for us...those were just toys.
Your first proposition is in error. We did not have the technology to pull that deception in 1969.
Who says it's not possible to do today? The problem is building ships that protect life are very expensive. The way they did things in the 60s would have to be all upgraded but what is the motivation and reason to send men to the moon now?I believe so. But at the same time I find it a bit odd that it seems it was only possible to do over 50 years ago, and no one has been able to do since then.
People who give all of the reasons why there's never been a manned space mission outside of earth's orbit for 50 years, make it out to be impossible or put another way it's not going to happen because because because.Who says it's not possible to do today? The problem is building ships that protect life are very expensive. The way they did things in the 60s would have to be all upgraded but what is the motivation and reason to send men to the moon now?
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