Did Jesus have doubts and fears?

[Christownsme]

Jesus taught not to worry. He had the perfect trust relationship with His Father. I know this is true, but it makes it sound like maybe Jesus didn't have doubts and fears.

Doubts and fears make Jesus sound human, which He was. That's what draws me to Him - His human part of Him. No doubt the deity is crucial to know, but right now in my faith journey, I need to know Christ as He was a human too. I need to know He cried, He doubted, and had fears. I know in the Garden of Gethsemene He went through something that made Him sweat blood. And on the cross He cried out "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?"

Other times He was perfectly sleeping calmly while on a boat in terrible gusts and weather. I doubt He worried ever, because that has been called a sin by some.

I want to know Jesus Christ. Satan is attacking me in many, many areas and promises me I'll never find out who Jesus is. That I'm lost and on a journey that leads to perdition.

I think Jesus the Christ is not only the most interesting person in history, He is most needed by the whole world, including me.

I got off track for a second. But does anyone have any comments on how Jesus may have doubted and feared, cried and suffered, even before He went to the cross? I believe there is evidence to show that, maybe in Isaiah 53, and in the Gospels. I guess I'm really thirsty for the whole person of Jesus right now. I don't know exactly what I'm asking. Just a post I guess.

 

[nephilimiyr]

Yes, and this video shows just how much fear and doubt Jesus had.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkROLJjYCpo

 

[Nanopants]

He was fully human and of course He experienced emotion, although “My God, My God, why have You forsaken Me?” is a quote of Psalm 22, which He knew by memory. If someone is up on a cross, facing certain death and has the clarity of mind to communicate with one sentence something much, much more profound in meaning, does that sound like the product of a failing faith? I don't believe so.

 

[Cappadocious]

He had real fears.

 

[seeingeyes]

He grieved his friend Lazarus, and cried with his sisters, even though he was about to raise Lazarus up from the dead.

I don't know that one could attribute 'doubt' to Jesus. But I think that grief and fear are mislabeled 'doubt' by some.

 

[ancientsoul]

Matthew 27:46 ... And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani, that is to say, My God, my God why hast thou forsaken me?

Psalm 22:1 ... My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? Why art thou so far from helping me, and from the words of my roaring? *

the reason Jesus spoke these words was to give evidence to the fact that His death and ressurection and all of it was prophesied 1000 yrs before it happened ... Jesus NEVER called God, God ... He ALWAYS called Him Father ... Psalm 22 in it's entire content is step by step everything that happened ... Psalm 22 is Messianic prophesy ... had He said, Father, Father, why have you forsaken me ... well, that would have negated it's purpose ...

 

[MamaZ]

Yes.. He cried out to God if you can take this cup from me then do so.. But not my will but thine be done..

 

[Lion King]

Doubting is a sign of lack of faith. Jesus never suffered from such worldly afflictions.

 

[Grandiose]

Jesus did have fears, absolutely. Doubt I'm not sure, if we are talking about God sustaining Jesus's faith.

Good examples have been provided, especially the Garden of Gethsemane prayer episode. This single account shines more light on Jesus's humanity then anything else for me. He was literally petitioning God for another way to reconcile humanity rather then having to go through the cross, the torture, the momentary seperation and all it entailed. Wow, this is why I am thoroughly persuaded that Jesus can identify with my weaknesses. He's been there, he's been told 'No', he's had to trust even when he was afraid and despairing.

 

[HisSparkPlug]

It was possible for Him to have doubt and fear, but I do not believe He gave into them.
His walk with Abba was in sync and HimSelf kept Him in perfect peace. He only saw and did what the Father did.

 

[squint]

Jesus taught not to worry. He had the perfect trust relationship with His Father. I know this is true, but it makes it sound like maybe Jesus didn't have doubts and fears.

Doubts and fears make Jesus sound human, which He was. That's what draws me to Him - His human part of Him. No doubt the deity is crucial to know, but right now in my faith journey, I need to know Christ as He was a human too. I need to know He cried, He doubted, and had fears. I know in the Garden of Gethsemene He went through something that made Him sweat blood. And on the cross He cried out "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?"

Other times He was perfectly sleeping calmly while on a boat in terrible gusts and weather. I doubt He worried ever, because that has been called a sin by some.

I want to know Jesus Christ. Satan is attacking me in many, many areas and promises me I'll never find out who Jesus is. That I'm lost and on a journey that leads to perdition.

I think Jesus the Christ is not only the most interesting person in history, He is most needed by the whole world, including me.

I got off track for a second. But does anyone have any comments on how Jesus may have doubted and feared, cried and suffered, even before He went to the cross? I believe there is evidence to show that, maybe in Isaiah 53, and in the Gospels. I guess I'm really thirsty for the whole person of Jesus right now. I don't know exactly what I'm asking. Just a post I guess.

Many people try to make Jesus like themselves in order to relate and to feel better.

The reasonings behind Jesus' Tears are not required to revolve around doubt and fear.

And fear of God is legitimate. I doubt He feared Himself.

The matter of God Himself taking on flesh and dwelling amongst 'us' i.e. mankind THEN remains a rightful Mystery to me. Speculation can be dangerous. I know many male believers are fond of thinking that Jesus had adulterous thoughts like they do in order to justify their own vile thoughts. There speculation has failed and deceived them internally.

Jesus was 'like us' except for ONE CRUCIAL AND VERY LARGE DIFFERENCE, that being...

WITHOUT SIN.

s

 

[miamited]

Jesus taught not to worry. He had the perfect trust relationship with His Father. I know this is true, but it makes it sound like maybe Jesus didn't have doubts and fears.

Doubts and fears make Jesus sound human, which He was. That's what draws me to Him - His human part of Him. No doubt the deity is crucial to know, but right now in my faith journey, I need to know Christ as He was a human too. I need to know He cried, He doubted, and had fears. I know in the Garden of Gethsemene He went through something that made Him sweat blood. And on the cross He cried out "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?"

Other times He was perfectly sleeping calmly while on a boat in terrible gusts and weather. I doubt He worried ever, because that has been called a sin by some.

I want to know Jesus Christ. Satan is attacking me in many, many areas and promises me I'll never find out who Jesus is. That I'm lost and on a journey that leads to perdition.

I think Jesus the Christ is not only the most interesting person in history, He is most needed by the whole world, including me.

I got off track for a second. But does anyone have any comments on how Jesus may have doubted and feared, cried and suffered, even before He went to the cross? I believe there is evidence to show that, maybe in Isaiah 53, and in the Gospels. I guess I'm really thirsty for the whole person of Jesus right now. I don't know exactly what I'm asking. Just a post I guess.

Hi COM,

I asked another this question and haven't heard back, but perhaps you can provide an answer. How is Jesus cry asking why God has forsaken him a sign of doubt. Do you not believe that Jesus knew all truth? If you do, then when Jesus asked why his Father had forsaken him, don't you believe that God had, in fact, forsaken him? Why is this declaration from Jesus seen as doubt?

God bless you.
In Christ, Ted

 

[ViaCrucis]

Our Lord Jesus Christ was a man like us, and thus walked in our weaknesses, though without sin. It is not sin to fear and to doubt.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[Lion King]

Our Lord Jesus Christ was a man like us, and thus walked in our weaknesses, though without sin. It is not sin to fear and to doubt.

-CryptoLutheran

Uhmm remember how God reacted to Sarah when she doubted what God had said?

God does not approve people who doubt His words. It shows a lack of faith.

 

[Nanopants]

Okay. He didn't eternally condemn her for it, and just because something may not be sin does not mean there are no consequences.

 

[Lion King]

Okay. He didn't eternally condemn her for it, and just because something may not be sin does not mean there are no consequences.

Lack of faith is a sin.

 

[squint]

Our Lord Jesus Christ was a man like us, and thus walked in our weaknesses, though without sin. It is not sin to fear and to doubt.

-CryptoLutheran

Doubt implies a lack of faith. Anything not of faith is sin.

Did Jesus doubt?

I doubt it.

s

 

[Lion King]

Moses doubted God. What happened to him?

God barred him from entering the promised land for his sin of doubt.

 

[squint]

Moses doubted God. What happened to him?

God barred him from entering the promised land for his sin of doubt.

Good point.

 

[GratiaCorpusChristi]

Uhmm remember how God reacted to Sarah when she doubted what God had said?

God does not approve people who doubt His words. It shows a lack of faith.

The trouble with doubt isn't when you have doubt, but when faith fails to overcome doubt. I can hardly image having faith without having doubt to begin with; it's what faith overcomes. The trouble with Sarah was that her doubt overcame her faith, and led to actions born of doubt; whatever doubts Jesus may have had, his faith overcame them, and his actions- in particular his death- was born of faith. That doesn't mean he never had doubts to overcome in the first place.