Did Jesus go to hell during the time that he was in the grave?

[bling]

Not in "hell".

 

[PatrickTate]

Not in "hell".

Matthew 12:39-41
He answered, “A wicked and adulterous generation asks for a sign! But none will be given it except the sign of the prophet Jonah. For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of a huge fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. The men of Nineveh will stand up at the judgment with this generation and condemn it; for they repented at the preaching of Jonah, and now something greater than Jonah is here.

 

[bob121]

There was no need for Jesus to go to Hell. However, those held there will know and hear Christ speak with all authority, confirming that they are there due to their rejection of the only Savior who can save anyone from the just sentence passed down upon the sinner.

 

[RDKirk]

Jesus went to the grave, best considered the Greek Hades."
He did not go to the place of eternal condemnation, not to either Gehenna or Tartarus.

 

[Jamdoc]

I believe that this may be one of the most important topics to find out more about if we are to overcome our lukewarm and rather lazy attitude.

I knew about this from the Bible but I found it really hit me hard when I read what a near death experiencer had been shown about why Jesus not only was scourged and crucified for us but he also went to hell itself until His resurrection.

Our salvation costed Jesus even more than I had imagined in the past.

What Jesus did for all of us was planned from even before the creation of Adam and Eve.

Kinda sorta. He went to "hell" in the sense of "Hades" or "Sheol" a place of the dead, where some are tormented, and some comforted as Jesus described in Luke 16. He did not get tormented, but rather triumphed over the principalities/fallen angels that are imprisoned.
In Colossians 2:15, it is said He made a show and triumph over the principalities after dying on the cross. Basically arriving in Hades as the victor over it.
in 1 Peter 3, we have

18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:
19 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;

so imprisoned spirits in Hades, He preached to them.

 

[RDKirk]

Kinda sorta. He went to "hell" in the sense of "Hades" or "Sheol" a place of the dead, where some are tormented, and some comforted as Jesus described in Luke 16. He did not get tormented, but rather triumphed over the principalities/fallen angels that are imprisoned.
In Colossians 2:15, it is said He made a show and triumph over the principalities after dying on the cross. Basically arriving in Hades as the victor over it.
in 1 Peter 3, we have

so imprisoned spirits in Hades, He preached to them.

I agree.

Sounds like a jailbreak to me.

 

[BelieveItOarKnot]

I believe that this may be one of the most important topics to find out more about if we are to overcome our lukewarm and rather lazy attitude.

I knew about this from the Bible but I found it really hit me hard when I read what a near death experiencer had been shown about why Jesus not only was scourged and crucified for us but he also went to hell itself until His resurrection.

Our salvation costed Jesus even more than I had imagined in the past.

What Jesus did for all of us was planned from even before the creation of Adam and Eve.

I wouldn't put too much stock in the stories of NDEer's

Seems like the majority of them end up in some skewered forms of theology of various sorts

Although a lot of them change for the better, regardless

Hell, in the application in question is "the grave."

There are some who believe the spirits of those who passed before Christ's death were held in Abraham's bosom, as noted in Luke 16. I think that may be a credible explanation.

Most scholars do not think the translation of "hell" in the common sense of the word, meaning the LoF, is even possible, because that "hell" has not yet arrived, theoretically

But I have heard some fiery sermons about Jesus going to hell for us. A little too much sensationalism for me, usually delivered to pick the pockets of the sheep

 

[Lost4words]

I believe that this may be one of the most important topics to find out more about if we are to overcome our lukewarm and rather lazy attitude.

I knew about this from the Bible but I found it really hit me hard when I read what a near death experiencer had been shown about why Jesus not only was scourged and crucified for us but he also went to hell itself until His resurrection.

Our salvation costed Jesus even more than I had imagined in the past.

What Jesus did for all of us was planned from even before the creation of Adam and Eve.

Jesus went down to the dead. Once he had done that, then i believe it became hell.....

 

[PatrickTate]

Jesus went down to the dead. Once he had done that, then i believe it became hell.....

When extra power and energy and understanding comes to heaven the stark contrast of hell would become even more noticeable. That is a very interesting way of looking at this Lost4words.

Here is one of the questions that has interested me for decades.....
does the Kingdom of Messiah Yeshua - Jesus eventually in a sense "Invade Hades and Sheol?"

And on that note why is the name "Azazel" in Leviticus 16 verse ten in the original Hebrew?

Does "Azazel" repent and get restored to Messiah Yeshua - Jesus and does play a role similar to General Abner who led the ten tribes over to King David after King Saul died?

Take a look at verse ten in the RSV:

"but the goat on which the lot fell for Aza′zel shall be presented alive before the Lord to make atonement over it, that it may be sent away into the wilderness to Aza′zel." [Leviticus 16:10 RSV]

Bible Gateway passage: Leviticus 16 - Revised Standard Version

The Day of Atonement - The LORD spoke to Moses, after the death of the two sons of Aaron, when they drew near before the LORD and died; and the LORD said to Moses, “Tell Aaron your brother not to come at all times into the holy place within the veil, before the mercy seat which is upon the ark...

www.biblegateway.com

 

[Paul4JC]

He went as victor to Hades/Sheol, also known as 'the realm of the dead' or 'underworld', of which hell is one part, along with Tartarus, the Abyss, etc.

However, your quote of Kevin Zadai Th. D is total nonsense.

 

[Dan Perez]

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Jesus went to where Abraham was in Sheol. it is not that complicate.

And I agree with you , and taken to Abrahams Bosom. !!

dan p

 

[eleos1954]

Hell is the grave (there is NO burning place) Jesus died the 1st and 2nd death ... Jesus was both man and God ... You can't kill God ... it is why Jesus had to come to earth as a human .... He was able to be resurrected (as a man) because He was sinless .... he overcame the grave (death) ... just as He was both man and God on earth .... so He is in heaven and will remain that way. Those in Him will some day be resurrected to eternal life because He overcame death on our behalf. Those not in Him will suffer the 2nd death (death for eternity) non-existence.

 

[ViaCrucis]

Jesus descended "ad inferos", as the Apostle's Creed puts it. That is "to the lower regions" or "netherworld" i.e. to the place of the dead: She'ol/Hades.

We usually translate this into English as "descended into hell", because "hell" is a word that tends to be a catchall for several biblical concepts.

Hell is used to refer to She'ol/Hades, i.e. the place of the dead.
Hell is used to refer to Gehenna, the experience of suffering which the wicked dead undergo.
And we often use "Hell" to describe the lake of fire in St. John's Apocalypse.

So "Hell" does a lot of heavy lifting, and requires unpacking.

In the 2nd Temple Period of Judaism there was this idea that the righteous would experience a foretaste of future glory (the resurrection and Olam Ha'ba or Age to Come); this was often imagined as the Garden of Eden (Gan-Eden), that's what "Paradise" refers to. Our word "paradise" is taken from the Greek paradeisos, itself a borrowing of a Persian word paradaeza, "an enclosed garden". The Persian word literally referred to a walled off garden, or what we'd call a park. This word was borrowed into Greek and in a Jewish context was used to mean the Garden of Eden. In 2nd Temple period literature there was an idea that since the Garden of Eden had been lost and closed off from humanity after Adam and Eve's expulsion, that it was no longer here on earth, but had been taken up by God. In apocalyptic literature of the time, such as the apocalypse of Enoch the Garden of Eden is described as existing in "the third heaven". We have to remember that in the ancient near east there were numerous "heavens" referring to the skies, that which is above the earth. The standard was seven heavens with the seventh being the greatest and highest "the heavens of heavens" as the divine throne room--hence Solomon says "The heavens cannot contain You, not even the heavens of heavens". Though in the Enochian texts, perhaps through Hellenistic influence, describes ten rather than seven. Regardless, the idea is that the Garden of Eden or Paradise exists in the heavens, beyond mortal reach, but is a place of rest for the righteous. This is also why St. Paul locates Paradise in the third heaven.

Yet Jesus also describes the place of rest for the righteous as "Abraham's Bosom", that is, the righteous are with Abraham (and all the Patriarchs). And in Jesus' parable of Lazarus and Dives He describes the place of the righteous dead and the place of the wicked dead as separated by an impossible to cross gulf. This idea therefore grounds the place of the righteous dead as a kind of "portion" of She'ol--the universal grave.

When we confess that Jesus descended "into hell" we are not talking about Jesus "going to the place where the wicked suffer", it's about Jesus entering the realm of death and the dead. And it is to proclaim victory against the cosmic powers of darkness, i.e. death and the devil who wields the power of death. St. Peter describes the Lord as going to the prison where the spirits of the dead who fell were, or to where the fallen angels were kept in chains--Jesus preaches--proclaims His victory over all the cosmic powers of darkness. His death is not His defeat, but the means by which He actually destroys and defeats the power of death--that by His resurrection He lifts up that which has been held in the bondage of death (human beings specifically, but ultimately all of creation) thereby defeating and destroying that power and signaling the ultimate doom for the ancient adversary of God--the devil.

So Christ's descent is an invasion--Christ invades death robbing death of its power, unshackling the chains, freeing the captives, setting liberty to the prisoners i.e. to all men.

That is the descent into "hell"; that is why Hell is harrowed--conquered, defeated, and robbed of its vice-grip of death over creation.

Christ is risen from the dead
Trampling down death by death
And to those in the tombs
Bestowing life

-CryptoLutheran

 

[RileyG]

Jesus descended "ad inferos", as the Apostle's Creed puts it. That is "to the lower regions" or "netherworld" i.e. to the place of the dead: She'ol/Hades.

We usually translate this into English as "descended into hell", because "hell" is a word that tends to be a catchall for several biblical concepts.

Hell is used to refer to She'ol/Hades, i.e. the place of the dead.
Hell is used to refer to Gehenna, the experience of suffering which the wicked dead undergo.
And we often use "Hell" to describe the lake of fire in St. John's Apocalypse.

So "Hell" does a lot of heavy lifting, and requires unpacking.

In the 2nd Temple Period of Judaism there was this idea that the righteous would experience a foretaste of future glory (the resurrection and Olam Ha'ba or Age to Come); this was often imagined as the Garden of Eden (Gan-Eden), that's what "Paradise" refers to. Our word "paradise" is taken from the Greek paradeisos, itself a borrowing of a Persian word paradaeza, "an enclosed garden". The Persian word literally referred to a walled off garden, or what we'd call a park. This word was borrowed into Greek and in a Jewish context was used to mean the Garden of Eden. In 2nd Temple period literature there was an idea that since the Garden of Eden had been lost and closed off from humanity after Adam and Eve's expulsion, that it was no longer here on earth, but had been taken up by God. In apocalyptic literature of the time, such as the apocalypse of Enoch the Garden of Eden is described as existing in "the third heaven". We have to remember that in the ancient near east there were numerous "heavens" referring to the skies, that which is above the earth. The standard was seven heavens with the seventh being the greatest and highest "the heavens of heavens" as the divine throne room--hence Solomon says "The heavens cannot contain You, not even the heavens of heavens". Though in the Enochian texts, perhaps through Hellenistic influence, describes ten rather than seven. Regardless, the idea is that the Garden of Eden or Paradise exists in the heavens, beyond mortal reach, but is a place of rest for the righteous. This is also why St. Paul locates Paradise in the third heaven.

Yet Jesus also describes the place of rest for the righteous as "Abraham's Bosom", that is, the righteous are with Abraham (and all the Patriarchs). And in Jesus' parable of Lazarus and Dives He describes the place of the righteous dead and the place of the wicked dead as separated by an impossible to cross gulf. This idea therefore grounds the place of the righteous dead as a kind of "portion" of She'ol--the universal grave.

When we confess that Jesus descended "into hell" we are not talking about Jesus "going to the place where the wicked suffer", it's about Jesus entering the realm of death and the dead. And it is to proclaim victory against the cosmic powers of darkness, i.e. death and the devil who wields the power of death. St. Peter describes the Lord as going to the prison where the spirits of the dead who fell were, or to where the fallen angels were kept in chains--Jesus preaches--proclaims His victory over all the cosmic powers of darkness. His death is not His defeat, but the means by which He actually destroys and defeats the power of death--that by His resurrection He lifts up that which has been held in the bondage of death (human beings specifically, but ultimately all of creation) thereby defeating and destroying that power and signaling the ultimate doom for the ancient adversary of God--the devil.

So Christ's descent is an invasion--Christ invades death robbing death of its power, unshackling the chains, freeing the captives, setting liberty to the prisoners i.e. to all men.

That is the descent into "hell"; that is why Hell is harrowed--conquered, defeated, and robbed of its vice-grip of death over creation.

Christ is risen from the dead
Trampling down death by death
And to those in the tombs
Bestowing life

-CryptoLutheran

Very well written and a great explanation!

Thank you!

I’m amazed by your immense knowledge!

God bless you!