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Kylie

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If you're so scientifically-minded as I think you are, why aren't you taking it up with Harvard?

Or are you?
As I very clearly stated, the use of the term "evolution" when talking about anything other than biological evolution is a colloquial use.

You are the one insisting that it is a scientific use.
 
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As I very clearly stated, the use of the term "evolution" when talking about anything other than biological evolution is a colloquial use.

You are the one insisting that it is a scientific use.
Takey uppey with Harvey please.

And stop pestering me about it.

But know and understand that if Harvard says you are right and they are wrong, I'm still not going to back down, as Harvard isn't the only one who preaches that junk.
 
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You are the one insisting that it is a scientific use.
That is correct, but I'm not the only one who does.

Where do you think "I" got it?
 
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Takey uppey with Harvey please.

And stop pestering me about it.

But know and understand that if Harvard says you are right and they are wrong, I'm still not going to back down, as Harvard isn't the only one who preaches that junk.
You don't get it.

My issue is with you claiming that Harvard's use of the term in a colloquial way means that they are using it in a scientific way, just to further your strawman against what the science of evolution actually is.
 
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That is correct, but I'm not the only one who does.

Where do you think "I" got it?
Care to show me where Harvard or any reputable science institution claims that the "evolution" in stellar evolution is related in any way to the "evolution" in biological evolution?

Because if you can't, I'd say you got it from your own imagination.
 
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Evolution isn’t a thing, it’s a process. Just like pregnancy,

Exactly the point of my OP. God "created" from the beginning, but he never stopped creating. Evolution is a process, a continuation. God already created the building blocks for life at the beginning of time, but he never had a completely hands off approach in his creation like people seem to think.

Psalm 139:13-16

Matthew 6:24-34
 
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Can you show me a specific event in evolution where God took direct action?
 
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This little paragraph only confirms what I've learned about Creationists' lack of understanding.
Funny how atheists love to assume creationists intelligence is lacking.

I've only ever met atheists who agree with the Darwinism theory of evolution. Perhaps investigate where that theory originated from. (And how it ended up in the church and minds of Christians) To deny a creator, yet accept we descended from apes is strange considering the fact humans are considerably more intelligent than apes.

Exactly, and if you refer to my OP and the scriptures, that seem to indicate that God still has a hand in this process of change and growth. Check post #44
 
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As for answers that can not be questioned. These aren't a sign of strength, but of weakness and insecurity.

2 Corinthians 12:9

9 Each time he said, “My grace is all you need. My power works best in weakness.” So now I am glad to boast about my weaknesses, so that the power of Christ can work through me.
 
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Evolution has nothing to do with the "origin of the universe". Evolution refers to the change in life forms over time.
For evolution to be a process, the process had to have "begun". You need to expand your thinking.
 
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You don't get it.

My issue is with you claiming that Harvard's use of the term in a colloquial way means that they are using it in a scientific way, just to further your strawman against what the science of evolution actually is.
I highly doubt that's on there because it's colloquial.

But either way, you need to understand it, don't you?
 
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All of them.

There is nothing in evolution which requires the intervention of a God.
All Life Comes from GOD,
So You failed.

"The Supreme Being; Jehovah; the eternal and infinite spirit, the creator, and the sovereign of the universe."
 
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For evolution to be a process, the process had to have "begun". You need to expand your thinking.
That's like saying that mining is an essential part of getting your driver's license because without mines to produce metal, your car wouldn't exist.
 
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Care to show me where Harvard or any reputable science institution claims that the "evolution" in stellar evolution is related in any way to the "evolution" in biological evolution?

Because if you can't, I'd say you got it from your own imagination.
Have a good day.

Take your issues up with Harvard.

Be sure an tell them they need to let viewers know their picture is only depicting colloquial evolutionary stages.
 
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For evolution to be a process, the process had to have "begun". You need to expand your thinking.
Personally, when I step back and look the big picture I have no problem saying that evolution started with the Big Bang. It's when I focus on the changes of the earth directly in an over time sort of way that the perspective changes for me.
 
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I've only ever met atheists who agree with the Darwinism theory of evolution.
So what?

There are plenty of Christians who accept evolution as well. You can't pretend that atheism and accepting the evidence for evolution are the same thing.
You know Charles Darwin attended college with the aim of becoming a clergyman, right?
Exactly, and if you refer to my OP and the scriptures, that seem to indicate that God still has a hand in this process of change and growth. Check post #44
Could you please provide a specific example of this?
 
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Personally, when I step back and look the big picture I have no problem saying that evolution started with the Big Bang.
Don't trip over the Bible.
 
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