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Did he hide himself when making things (god)?
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<blockquote data-quote="mmarco" data-source="post: 76133123" data-attributes="member: 421567"><p>I do not think that God hides from us, but God is intrinsically invisible exactly as our own thoughts and feelings are intrinsically invisible. You cannot see people's thoughts or feelings, can you? We can see only material objects and we can hear only material acustic waves, but God is not material. We can know Him inside our mind, because He speaks to us through our conscience.</p><p></p><p>The existence and the Goodness of God are the most fundamental truth and I do not think that this truth can be deduced through any form of reasoning, because this would mean believing more in such reasoning than in God.</p><p>However, I believe that there are solid rational arguments that show that the belief in the existence of an intelligent God is absolutely reasonable, i.e. that this belief has a rational foundation.</p><p>In particular, being a physicist, I believe that some of these arguments can be reached through a rational analysis of our scientific knowledge.</p><p></p><p></p><p>The extraordinary success of the laws of physics in predicting sistematically with great accuracy natural phenomena, reveals a fundamental property of the universe, which is its close correspondence with abstract mathematical structures, to the point that abstract mathematical structures are the only means to identify general principles able to account coherently for the variety of natural phenomena. The physical reality manifests itself as a realization of some specific abstract mathematical structures (what we call “the laws of physics”); in fact, according to modern science, the building blocks of the universe are not particles, but quantum fields, which are abstract mathematical structures which properties are abstract mathematical properties. This close correspondence with abstract mathematical structures represents the most fundamental and relevant information that science provides about the nature of the universe and the physical reality.</p><p></p><p>On the other hand, mathematical structures are only constructions of the rational thought and a mathematical structure can exist only as a thought in a thinking mind conceiving it; this implies that matter (and the physical reality) is not the foundation of reality, but its existence depends on a more fundamental reality i.e. consciousness: contrary to the basic hypothesis of materialism, consciousness is a more fundamental reality than matter.</p><p></p><p>Therefore the existence of this mathematically structured universe implies the existence of a conscious and intelligent God, conceiving it as a mathematical model. In other words, the universe can be only the manifestation of a mathematical theory existing in the mind of a personal God.</p><p></p><p>Atheism does not account for the most important and fundamental infirmation that science provides about the physical reality (i.e. its mathematical modellability) and denies, without any rational arguments, the only rational explanation. It is totally unreasonable to expect that mathematics can so accurately describe a universe that should have existed before mathematics was conceived and independently of the existence of rational thinking, which is the necessary condition for the existence of mathematics</p><p></p><p></p><p>There is another argument from physics that I find strongly convincing; according to our scientific knowledges, all chemical and biological processes (including cerebral processes) are caused by the electromagnetic interaction between subatomic particles such as electrons and protons. Quantum mechanics accounts for such interactions, as well as for the properties of subatomic particles. The point is that there is no trace of consciousness, sensations, emotions, etc. in the laws of quantum mechanics (as well as in all the laws of physcis). Consciousness is irreducible to the laws of physics, while all cerebral processes are, which is sufficient to prove that consciousness is irreducible to cerebral processes and that cerebral processes cannot be identified as the cause of consciousness. The basic assumption of materialism (which identifies cerebral processes as the origin of consciousness) is then contradicted by this fundamental scientific result, i.e. the irreducibility of consciousness to cerebral processes. This result represents the most strong argument in favour of the existence of the soul, as the unphysical and trascendent principle necessary for the existence of our consciousness. Since our soul cannot have a physical origin, it can only be created directly by God. The existence of God is a necessary condition for the existence of our soul, as well as for the existence of us as conscious beings.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="mmarco, post: 76133123, member: 421567"] I do not think that God hides from us, but God is intrinsically invisible exactly as our own thoughts and feelings are intrinsically invisible. You cannot see people's thoughts or feelings, can you? We can see only material objects and we can hear only material acustic waves, but God is not material. We can know Him inside our mind, because He speaks to us through our conscience. The existence and the Goodness of God are the most fundamental truth and I do not think that this truth can be deduced through any form of reasoning, because this would mean believing more in such reasoning than in God. However, I believe that there are solid rational arguments that show that the belief in the existence of an intelligent God is absolutely reasonable, i.e. that this belief has a rational foundation. In particular, being a physicist, I believe that some of these arguments can be reached through a rational analysis of our scientific knowledge. The extraordinary success of the laws of physics in predicting sistematically with great accuracy natural phenomena, reveals a fundamental property of the universe, which is its close correspondence with abstract mathematical structures, to the point that abstract mathematical structures are the only means to identify general principles able to account coherently for the variety of natural phenomena. The physical reality manifests itself as a realization of some specific abstract mathematical structures (what we call “the laws of physics”); in fact, according to modern science, the building blocks of the universe are not particles, but quantum fields, which are abstract mathematical structures which properties are abstract mathematical properties. This close correspondence with abstract mathematical structures represents the most fundamental and relevant information that science provides about the nature of the universe and the physical reality. On the other hand, mathematical structures are only constructions of the rational thought and a mathematical structure can exist only as a thought in a thinking mind conceiving it; this implies that matter (and the physical reality) is not the foundation of reality, but its existence depends on a more fundamental reality i.e. consciousness: contrary to the basic hypothesis of materialism, consciousness is a more fundamental reality than matter. Therefore the existence of this mathematically structured universe implies the existence of a conscious and intelligent God, conceiving it as a mathematical model. In other words, the universe can be only the manifestation of a mathematical theory existing in the mind of a personal God. Atheism does not account for the most important and fundamental infirmation that science provides about the physical reality (i.e. its mathematical modellability) and denies, without any rational arguments, the only rational explanation. It is totally unreasonable to expect that mathematics can so accurately describe a universe that should have existed before mathematics was conceived and independently of the existence of rational thinking, which is the necessary condition for the existence of mathematics There is another argument from physics that I find strongly convincing; according to our scientific knowledges, all chemical and biological processes (including cerebral processes) are caused by the electromagnetic interaction between subatomic particles such as electrons and protons. Quantum mechanics accounts for such interactions, as well as for the properties of subatomic particles. The point is that there is no trace of consciousness, sensations, emotions, etc. in the laws of quantum mechanics (as well as in all the laws of physcis). Consciousness is irreducible to the laws of physics, while all cerebral processes are, which is sufficient to prove that consciousness is irreducible to cerebral processes and that cerebral processes cannot be identified as the cause of consciousness. The basic assumption of materialism (which identifies cerebral processes as the origin of consciousness) is then contradicted by this fundamental scientific result, i.e. the irreducibility of consciousness to cerebral processes. This result represents the most strong argument in favour of the existence of the soul, as the unphysical and trascendent principle necessary for the existence of our consciousness. Since our soul cannot have a physical origin, it can only be created directly by God. The existence of God is a necessary condition for the existence of our soul, as well as for the existence of us as conscious beings. [/QUOTE]
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