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Did God Order Massacres in the Old Testament? [ELCA/ELCIC forum]

Discussion in 'ELCA / ELCIC' started by Sérgio Junior, Sep 17, 2019.

  1. Norbert L

    Norbert L Well-Known Member Supporter

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    There is the supernatural view, it involves how His Heavenly kingdom interacts on this Earth in order to save mankind from death.

    It would be similar to the reason Noah's flood occurred but on a much smaller scale. In His omniscience He foresaw that unless these populations weren't executed then we wouldn't have Judaism or Christianity as we know it today.

    It's hard to imagine this world as being any worse as it is now, but no. Things could be a lot worse. Look at one particular culture whose historical civilizations have been furthest from geographical location of the middle east. Where things like if you've been convicted of a crime, not only do you go to prison but you're also put on a live organ donor list. Could you imagine all major powers agreeing on this?
     
  2. Jim47

    Jim47 Heaven Bound Supporter

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    The answer to your question is, Yes God did order the Israelites to go in and destroy all life. But I think your real question is Why!

    God had promised this land to Abraham and his descendants many years prior to this order. God keeps His promises. Why destroy the Cananites? If you read through the scriptures you will find that God's period of grace for these people had run out. In His eyes they were already dead. God can see into their future and what He saw was hardened unbelief and increased sin.

    Our period of God's grace can run out too, just as Pharaoh's had. Moses stood in front of Pharaoh and told him God's will but Pharaoh denied God. He said who is this God that I should obey Him.

    Let me know if that answered your questions.
     
  3. yeshuaslavejeff

    yeshuaslavejeff simple truth, martyr, disciple of Yahshua

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    Which Scripture specifically, for an example, in particular? Sometimes, men obeyed Yahweh. Often they did not (and do not). In Scripture, from what is written.
     
  4. yeshuaslavejeff

    yeshuaslavejeff simple truth, martyr, disciple of Yahshua

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  5. Rubiks

    Rubiks proud libtard

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    The conquests of the Canaanites depicted in the book of Joshua cannot be reconciled with known archaeology and probably served as foundation myths for the people of Israel.
     
  6. yeshuaslavejeff

    yeshuaslavejeff simple truth, martyr, disciple of Yahshua

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    Not if Yahuweh told the truth, and He is not a man that He could lie.
     
  7. tampasteve

    tampasteve Steadfast Lutheran Staff Member Supervisor Supporter

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    Please remember this is the ELCA sub-forum.
     
  8. tampasteve

    tampasteve Steadfast Lutheran Staff Member Supervisor Supporter

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    There is some evidence of what is written about in the Bible, but not to the extent that it would seem necessary to reconcile. It would seem that the base story is true, but the extent is made larger than the actual events.
     
  9. yeshuaslavejeff

    yeshuaslavejeff simple truth, martyr, disciple of Yahshua

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    Okay, thanks - I just only saw the post I was replying to, and did not notice. But then also, if I may ask anyone ELCA,
    does anyone in ELCA believe the slaughters happened as written in Scripture, in Torah, in the Prophets, in the Psalms , (and maybe referred to in the New Testament?) ?
     
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  10. yeshuaslavejeff

    yeshuaslavejeff simple truth, martyr, disciple of Yahshua

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    Shalom!
     
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  11. tampasteve

    tampasteve Steadfast Lutheran Staff Member Supervisor Supporter

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    I know there are people in the ELCA that take a more literal reading of Scripture - there is a person in my church that I know does. I am also sure that most ELCA Lutherans do not take a literal reading of many parts of Scripture. But there is not a binding statement that one must believe. From the ELCA website:

    "Despite the diversity of viewpoints and the complexity of the many narratives contained in the Scriptures, Lutheran Christians believe that the story of God’s steadfast love and mercy in Jesus is the heart and center of what the Scriptures have to say."
     
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