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Did God create man or did man create God?"
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Because it makes a pretty good tool to control large amounts of people.
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Where do you think your religion came from? every religion is the product of man, yours is no different from all the rest you were just not born in another country to be subjected to their religion, why are you not a Muslim? you are what you are because of where and by whom you were raised, the choice was not yours to make.
I speak English because I was born in England to English parents who could only speak English, had I been born in France to French parents I would now be speaking French, why you have your religion is exactly like that, what do you find so hard to understand about that? you were raised to believe as you do unless your parents are Muslims and you are a Christian.
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Then why aren't you an Anglican?
If you want us to believe what you are saying, why are you posting as an Agnositc?
Are you somehow exempt from your own message you're preaching here?
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It's obvious you elaborated this questions for agnostics, humanists, atheist, nihilists.
God is the Creator and there are doubtless evidences all around the world, only who doesn't want to look out at the world with a different perspective than "God doesn't exist law" will have problems to recognize Him.
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And they can't all be correct, since the people reporting such things are hindu's, vikings, muslims, jews, christians, etc etc etc etc. All mutually exclusive religions.
They can't all be right, but they CAN all be wrong.
You are aware that humans are very prone to hallucination or simply misinterpretation of experiences as well as flat out being incorrect or lying, right?
Do you know how many people you can go and talk to TODAY (so, still alive) that will testify to being abducted by aliens and having weird sexual experiments performed on them? People that saw bigfoot, the lochness monster, etc?
This is not a "problem" as you say. In fact, those are the people that are inventing those gods, bigfoots, aliens,....
That's where these claims come from...
Yes, they can.
As said, they can't ALL be right. But the CAN all be wrong.
And since none of these "testimonies" can be supported with any evidence, they certainly can all be dissmissed at face value.
That's how it goes... I'm sure you've heared the saying before "whatever is asserted without evidence, can be dissmissed without evidence".
If there is no unicorn, where did the concept of unicorns come from?
If there is no blob, where did the concept of blobs come from?
If there is no centaur, where did the concept of centaurs come from?
If there is no <insert-imaginary-thing>, where did the concept of <imaginary-thing> come from?
This line of reasoning can be used to "defend" the existance of ANYTHING your imagination can produce.
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It is both actually. But what is in a word such as God, and how do we with our soul measure what this is. The word God is much like the word infinity, there are no borders. God in one form is a concept that we abandon our soul to to the point of taking no thought, rather thought becoming something that arises out of the midst of us (like a tree in a garden) or what comes out of a block wood when the carvers knife has finished.
The Bible is a book of consciousness and it's truths are experienced within, we are forced by it to reason to an expected end. But if it remains only a truth outside of us there never comes a consensus as to what the truth of self is in the light of God (which again, is just a word).
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http://www.biblehub.com/matthew/6-6.htm
Ask(thank) Lord the God.
if you can't leave humans alone and be in the wilderness somewhere to pray, that's your fault.
however the Holy Bible is Living,
look at genesis chapter 1, each time "it is good"
you may google 2005 election church (sorry, it's not permissible to harp on about the past as I do)
Ask(thank) Lord the God.
if you can't leave humans alone and be in the wilderness somewhere to pray, that's your fault.
however the Holy Bible is Living,
look at genesis chapter 1, each time "it is good"
you may google 2005 election church (sorry, it's not permissible to harp on about the past as I do)
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This is a philosophical question or a question for anthropologist. I have difficulties to to see what your question has to do with evolution v.s. creationisms debate? How do you want to connect your question with either of the subjects?
But to answer your question, they are pretty mutually exclusive don't you think?
...and Jesus said the opposite as well... but the point is, are you trying to prove your point with apologetics?
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Do you think you can post your question in the proper forums OR formulate your self more precisely?
Whether god exists or not is relevant for creations, but irrelevant for evolution (evolution does not exclude that god exists, but it exclude the story in the genesis as factual events). So what is your point with your questions?
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There could be anything beyond that mile but if we can't find anything do we still have the right to say something exists just because we want it to exist?
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Even we can know God in the Bible and in the evidence He gives us in the natural record. Still man creates God in his own image. Without understanding that it it God's desire to do a work in us to transform us into His image.
Romans 12:2New King James Version (NKJV)
2 And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.
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What evidence is that?
Of course because people are not given an image to work from, where would they even start? they have got to make him up?
"Transform us into His image"? could you tell us what His image is please? or are you just repeating the words you have heard?
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We are basically Greeks or what the Bible calls Gentiles. They are different from the Hebrews that are the natural descendants of Abraham and Sara. In the Greek we are told that Jesus is the word of God that became flesh and dwelt among us. Word here is Logos, by definition that means: "principle of divine reason and creative order". So we are the product of divine reason and we are a part of the creative order of the Universe. Even some speculate that there are multi universes that have some sort of connection between them. Some say God is the force that unites them all. Still as Greeks or Gentiles we are trying to understand a book written in Hebrew, by the Hebrews for the Hebrews. The early church and the disciples were amazed that the Gentiles were able to be saved. God used Paul to minister to the Gentiles and He used Peter to ministry to the Hebrews.
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All the evidence that science has to work with like the fossil record and geology and so on. A wonderful instrument is the spectrograph. Because we are star stuff we are able to study the stars and we are able to study ourselves.
You start at the beginning. There are many many beginnings. Pick one and start there. Or as close as you can get to the beginning.
Love, Joy, Peace, Patience, Kindness, Goodness, Faithfulness, Gentleness, & Self Control. To have the Mind of Christ is to understand Divinity and the Divine thoughts of God. I can give you maybe 200 elements that make up the mind of Christ. As we are told "Let this Mind be in you". For example Jesus Humbled Himself and He was Obedient. These are two of the many qualities that we are to have as a born again Christian. The Mind of Christ will demonstrate the Fruit of the Spirit: Love, Joy, Peace and so on. You know them by their love. We are to be fruit inspectors.
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