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Can anyone imagine Jesus saying this?


Deuteronomy 25:1 “If there is a dispute between men and they come into court and the judges decide between them, acquitting the innocent and condemning the guilty, 2 then if the guilty man deserves to be beaten, the judge shall cause him to lie down and be beaten in his presence with a number of stripes in proportion to his offense. 3 Forty stripes may be given him, but not more, lest, if one should go on to beat him with more stripes than these, your brother be degraded in your sight.


Not only that,but why is the guy degraded,after 40?
Like 38 stripes would not be degrading?:D
 

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This would be like a picnic compared to the Tribulation Period, the Second Coming of Christ, and the Great White Throne Judgment.

Jesus Christ will come in Great and Holy Wrath at His Second Coming, and He is the Holy Judge at the Great White Throne Judgment.

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Revelation 6:1-17 KJV And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see. 2 And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer. 3 And when he had opened the second seal, I heard the second beast say, Come and see. 4 And there went out another horse that was red: and power was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword. 5 And when he had opened the third seal, I heard the third beast say, Come and see. And I beheld, and lo a black horse; and he that sat on him had a pair of balances in his hand. 6 And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine. 7 And when he had opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth beast say, Come and see. 8 And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth. 9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held: 10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth? 11 And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled. 12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood; 13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind. 14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places. 15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; 16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: 17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?
 
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Matt 5:38 “You have heard that it was said, ‘An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.’ 39 But I say to you, Do not resist the one who is evil. But if anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also.
 
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You're confusing the two kingdoms. This is a civil penalty for a civil crime (Romans 13:1-7). His sin could be freely forgiven (Mark 10:42-45), but the civil penalty remains.
 
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Can anyone imagine Jesus saying this?


Deuteronomy 25:1 “If there is a dispute between men and they come into court and the judges decide between them, acquitting the innocent and condemning the guilty, 2 then if the guilty man deserves to be beaten, the judge shall cause him to lie down and be beaten in his presence with a number of stripes in proportion to his offense. 3 Forty stripes may be given him, but not more, lest, if one should go on to beat him with more stripes than these, your brother be degraded in your sight.


Not only that,but why is the guy degraded,after 40?
Like 38 stripes would not be degrading?:D

Forty is the period alloted for repentance. 40 days tested by the devil. 40 days to the overthrow of Ninevah. 40 years of wandering. 40 years from 30ad to 70ad (temple destruction).

You know Christ was beaten 40 stripes, the innocent for the guilty.
 
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I Have a hard time trying to see the image in my mind,of Jesus standing there counting the lashes,or doing the lashing.
Jesus preached mercy over the letter of the Law but he didn't deny that the Law was unjust.

John 8:

5 Now in the law, Moses commanded us to stone such women. So what do you say?"
6 They said this to test him, so that they could have some charge to bring against him. Jesus bent down and began to write on the ground with his finger.

7 But when they continued asking him, he straightened up and said to them, "Let the one among you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone at her."
 
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Jesus preached mercy over the letter of the Law but he didn't deny that the Law was unjust.

John 8:

5 Now in the law, Moses commanded us to stone such women. So what do you say?"
6 They said this to test him, so that they could have some charge to bring against him. Jesus bent down and began to write on the ground with his finger.

7 But when they continued asking him, he straightened up and said to them, "Let the one among you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone at her."

This is an interesting passage. Although Jesus did not comment on the justness of the Law in this passage He did manage to avert the just punishment of this woman's sin.
 
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Forty is the period alloted for repentance. 40 days tested by the devil. 40 days to the overthrow of Ninevah. 40 years of wandering. 40 years from 30ad to 70ad (temple destruction).

You know Christ was beaten 40 stripes, the innocent for the guilty.
Poor ole Paul received 40 minus 1 lashes 5 times from the Judeans

Nahum 3:2 A sound of a Whip and sound of a quaking wheel and horse galloping and chariot prancing, a horseman mounting up...............

Rotherham) 2 Corinthians 11:24 From Jews, five times, forty-save-one, have I received,

Acts 16:23 Many yet having layed of them, blows/plhgaV <4127>, they cast in prison charging to the jailor safelly keep them

Why use 40 when 7 will do :)

Reve 15:1 And I perceived another sign in the heaven, great and marvelous.
Messengers, seven, having blows/plhgaV <4127>, seven, the last, that in them is finished the fury of the God.
 
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Hi Guys,,,I am looking to see,do any of you think Jesus would pick a a whip,and whip a man 39 tmes?

Matt 5:43 “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ 44 But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you,
 
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The day will come when Jesus Christ will condemn countless hosts to the eternal fires and punishments of hell.

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Revelation 20:11-15 KJV 11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. 12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. 13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. 14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. 15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
 
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Hi Guys,,,I am looking to see,do any of you think Jesus would pick a a whip,and whip a man 39 tmes?

Matt 5:43 &#8220;You have heard that it was said, &#8216;You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.&#8217; 44 But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you,

I don't think He would, but that's just me.
 
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Can anyone imagine Jesus saying this?


Deuteronomy 25:1 “If there is a dispute between men and they come into court and the judges decide between them, acquitting the innocent and condemning the guilty, 2 then if the guilty man deserves to be beaten, the judge shall cause him to lie down and be beaten in his presence with a number of stripes in proportion to his offense. 3 Forty stripes may be given him, but not more, lest, if one should go on to beat him with more stripes than these, your brother be degraded in your sight.

Who do you think said it?;)
 
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Who caused the flood of Noah's time?

There seems to have been a change.
Do you think that jesus would have a man lay down,and pass a whip across his back 39 times?

Dude..this is a just a light duty chat,don't worrry,your theology is intact.:).soooo what do ya say?
 
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Not on the back of those that live on faith in the Father.

Hmmmm..would Jesus whip even an enemy?

Do you see a change?:)


Matt 5;43 “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ 44 But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you,
 
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