Did David and Johnathan Have a Gay Relationship?

[brightmorningstar]

Dear artybloke,

I follow Christ, not the law.

Anyone can claim that, the question we are discussing is whether either of us are following Christ or not on this issue. Seeing as you ahve cliamed this, the evidence for me suggests you arent.

 

[artybloke]

Seeing as you ahve cliamed this, the evidence for me suggests you arent.

Are you saying that because I think that your interpretation of the Bible is homophobic and wrong that therefore I'm not a Christian?

 

[brightmorningstar]

Dear artybloke

Are you saying that because I think that your interpretation of the Bible is homophobic and wrong that therefore I'm not a Christian?

No. but you seem to be.

I am saying that to follow Christ we have to obey His teachings and do what he says, because that’s what He says

Matthew 19, 28, Luke 11, 17, John 14 & 15, 17, Acts 4, 5, Romans 6, 15, 16, Gal 5, Eph 6, Phil 2, 2 Thes 1, 3, Heb 5, 1 Peter 1, 4, 1 John 2, 3, 5, Rev 3, 12, 14

 

[Der Alte]

[SIZE=-1]The only same-sex sex that the Bible condemns is homosexual rape and temple prostitution.[/SIZE]

Patently false homosexual rubbish! And I have proved it many times with IRREFUTABLE evidence from the Talmud and the early church fathers, dating from the time of Moses, through the founding of the church, and for the first 300 years of the church. And what do we have to back up your claim? NOTHING! NADA! Just your unsupported assumptions and presuppositions.

From the time Moses delivered the law, to the Israelites, until the present, Jewish scholars interpreted the O.T. scriptures as condemning ALL same gender sex acts; by ALL persons, male and female; at ALL times, in ALL places, and under ALL circumstances, NO exceptions. The early church fathers also interpreted the scriptures as condemning ALL homosexual acts, with NO exceptions.

Recent posts: Evidence from Talmud, and other ancient Jewish writings, Link

Evidence from early church fathers, Link

 

[Der Alte]

[SIZE=-1]Why should i take the word of aqnyone who knows ZERO about about what I think or know? [size=+1][The answer my friend is blowing in the wind. I never claimed to know what you think or know. Why don't you try replying to what I actually post if you are capable?][/size]

I DON'T CARE what a bunch of ancient Pharisees said. [size=+1][In case you didn't notice while you were ignoring my post. I did NOT quote Pharisees I quoted Jesus. You might have heard of him they made a movie about him recently, The Passion of Christ!][/size]

You have no authority over me.[size=+1][Never claimed to have. Just pointing out your errors!][/size]

I follow Christ, not the law.[/SIZE]

Perhaps you could show me where I ever advocated N.T. Christians following the law?

Are you going to take me up on that discussion of the original Hebrew, without any "opinions of dead men?"

 

[Der Alte]

artybloke,

I see lots of vile accusations but I don't see the slightest effort to discuss scripture without the opinions of a bunch of dead guys, which is what you said you wanted.

 

[Der Alte]

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