Deuteronomy 13: 1-5

[thinkfreelivefree]

Hey it's me again with another simple question....

From the OT

1If there arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and giveth thee a sign or a wonder

2And the sign or the wonder come to pass, whereof he spake unto thee, saying, Let us go after other gods, which thou hast not known, and let us serve them;
3Thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams: for the LORD your God proveth you, to know whether ye love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul.
4Ye shall walk after the LORD your God, and fear him, and keep his commandments, and obey his voice, and ye shall serve him, and cleave unto him.
5And that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams, shall be put to death; because he hath spoken to turn you away from the LORD your God, which brought you out of the land of Egypt, and redeemed you out of the house of bondage, to thrust thee out of the way which the LORD thy God commanded thee to walk in. So shalt thou put the evil away from the midst of thee.

Could people "justify" killing Jesus with these verses that Moses spoke (I believe it was Moses, pleas correct me if I'm wrong) ? Jesus taught a "different" religious belief and it's been discussed (though they are one and the same) that the OT and NT God share different character traits which could lead to some confusion.


(before I get reported, I do not approve of the killing of anyone, thank you)

 

[£amb]

Hey it's me again with another simple question....

From the OT

Could people "justify" killing Jesus with these verses that Moses spoke (I believe it was Moses, pleas correct me if I'm wrong) ? Jesus taught a "different" religious belief and it's been discussed (though they are one and the same) that the OT and NT God share different character traits which could lead to some confusion.


(before I get reported, I do not approve of the killing of anyone, thank you)

Hi thinkfreelivefree... Just a quick questions...

1. What was the different religious belief that Jesus taught?

I think it would be a better understanding (for myself) to know exactly what is different. I hope I can get back with this thread, but I've been too busy to checking in the forums lately. Maybe someone else can help you if I can't...

 

[thinkfreelivefree]

Different as in different from the laws of the OT.

 

[ebia]

Hey it's me again with another simple question....

From the OT

Could people "justify" killing Jesus with these verses that Moses spoke (I believe it was Moses, pleas correct me if I'm wrong) ?

People can use just about anything to justify just about anything.

Jesus taught a "different" religious belief and it's been discussed (though they are one and the same) that the OT and NT God share different character traits which could lead to some confusion.

Jesus didn't teach a "different" religious belief, but the proper continuation of the the same religious belief; and he could hardly have been clearer that he was talking about the same God. In fact much of what he said only makes sense if he is talking about the same God - YHWH; if he is talking about a different God it all becomes gibberish. Jesus does and says what the OT says only YHWH will do and say; it all becomes meaningless if one were to suppose he was preaching "a different God", even to those who disagreed with him. They couldn't have thought he was preaching any God but YHWH because their objections to what he said and did are formed from the assumption that he is refering to YHWH.

Their objections are twofold - firstly that he is calling upon himself stuff that applies to YHWH, and secondly (and far more importantly) he is threatening their power and status.

 

[Whitestone]

Could you please specify where those verses came from, I like to use the ten line rule. read ten lines before and after the quote to make sure I am getting it in context.

However from what I am reading it looks like a verse indicating the antichrist.

 

[DavinMochrie]

Let us go after other gods, which thou hast not known, and let us serve them;

I think that's the operative part.

It's someone preaching about following other Gods, other than Yahweh or God.

Jesus preached following God.

 

[Merlin]

Many tried to kill Him
Eventually, they arranged to have the Romans crucify Him

 

[ContentInHim]

Different as in different from the laws of the OT.

Except those were God's laws and Jesus followed them to perfection.

Jesus was against the Pharisees' additions to the law of God. For instance, God gave the Israelites a law not to cook a kid (baby goat) in it's mother's milk. Well, besides being unappetizing, what would be the problem? The Jews who keep Rabbinically (descendents of the Pharisaical movement) kosher won't eat a cheeseburger, for instance, because they feel that law prohibits mixing meat and dairy - often to the point of having two separate kitchens in one home - one for dairy and one for meat. It made simple laws very complicated.

It makes for a fascinating study how the Rabbis defined the various laws written down by Moses!

 

[ContentInHim]

As for your OP, these verses weren't used against Jesus. He was accused of blasphemy and breaking the Sabbath. Which he broke the Pharisees laws, not God's!

 

[arunma]

If one studies the trial of Jesus, then one will find that idolatry was not even one of the charges against the Lord. It says,

Now the chief priests and the whole Council were seeking false testimony against Jesus that they might put him to death, but they found none, though many false witnesses came forward. At last two came forward and said, "This man said, 'I am able to destroy the temple of God, and to rebuild it in three days." (St. Matthew 26:59-61)
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Notice that the Jews sought false testimony against him, and even the true testimony they received was no punishable offense according to the Law of Moses. Ultimately Jesus was convicted of blasphemy for declaring himself to be the Christ.

But Jesus remained silent. And the high priest said to him, "I adjure you by the living God, tell us if you are the Christ, the Son of God." Jesus said to him, "You have said so. But I tell you, from now on you will see the Son of Man seated at the right hand of Power and coming on the clouds of heaven." Then the high priest tore his robes and said, "He has uttered blasphemy. What further witnesses do we need? You have now heard his blasphemy. (St. Matthew 26:63-65)
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Jesus taught only the worship of the true God, and therefore idolatry would never have been an appropriate charge against Jesus. Notice, however, that declaring oneself to be the Christ is also not illegal (most certainly not for the Christ himself). Thus, the trial of Jesus was not conducted according to the Law.

 

[Key]

Could people "justify" killing Jesus with these verses that Moses spoke (I believe it was Moses, pleas correct me if I'm wrong) ? Jesus taught a "different" religious belief and it's been discussed (though they are one and the same) that the OT and NT God share different character traits which could lead to some confusion.

This is a great question, and the answer is tricky.

See this is why they wanted to Kill Jesus, but, at the same time, Jesus did not preach a "different God" he preached the same God, but provided a new Covenant.

However, at the time, it seemed as if he was preaching hearsay to the Jews, and they wanted him dead for that.

Hope this helps.

God Bless

Key