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Destroying Evolution in less than 5 minutes

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When an individual has a strong faith which is brought into question by contradictory evidence, the individual experiences internal conflict and reacts negatively such as going into denial mode.

Kinda like believing the Jews wandered in the wilderness for forty years, despite evidence to the contrary, isn't it?

I'd go into denial mode too if someone says the Exodus never happened.
 
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It wasn't 192% decrease?
 
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... so they're cowards and wouldn't be able to put anyone in their place then.

No, they're not cowards.

They just know when to hold 'em,
Know when to fold 'em,
Know when to walk away,
And know when to run.

They never count those lies, sitting at the table.
There'll be time enough for counting, when the Judgement's come.
 
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No, they're not cowards.

They just know when to hold 'em,
Know when to fold 'em,
Know when to walk away,
And know when to run.

They never count those lies, sitting at the table.
There'll be time enough for counting, when the Judgement's come.

Quote Kenny Rogers' The Gambler as you might, but the behaviour your describing sounds heavily like cowardice.

If professional creationists from the likes of AiG, ICR et al are in the right, what do they have to lose by putting their thoughts and hypothesis out to the wider scientific community?
 
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How many times do they have to do it?

Don't tell me you don't know where they stand.

I put my standards out all the time, but there are times when I think it's appropriate for me to do so, but I don't.
 
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How many times do they have to do it?

Don't tell me you don't know where they stand.

I put my standards out all the time, but there are times when I think it's appropriate for me to do so, but I don't.

It's got nothing to do with standards and standing, it's to do with being right, which is why I asked: If professional creationists from the likes of AiG, ICR et al are in the right, what do they have to lose by putting their thoughts and hypothesis out to the wider scientific community?
 
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If professional creationists from the likes of AiG, ICR et al are in the right, what do they have to lose by putting their thoughts and hypothesis out to the wider scientific community?

Time.
 
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Oh yeah, the Rapture stuff.

Sounds very much like a cop out answer to me, because if they're in the right, then they should have no problems posting their actual stuff to the wider scientific community because, as Jesus says: no-one knows the hour but the Lord (Matthew 24:36 and Mark 13:32). So, technically, they have all the time in the world.

But they don't do it.
 
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What I meant was, they would be wasting their time doing it over and over.

Ah. Now that REALLY sounds like a cop out.

"Yeah, they're right! But why waste all that time and effort to not show anyone in the wider world that they're right? That's just pointless!"

Sounds like an excuse for cowardice.
 
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Sounds like an excuse for cowardice.

Is this an example of what you want?

ICR: Magnetosphere too weak for an old earth.
Scientists: Magnetosphere [ooh eee ooh ah ah, ting tang walla-walla bing bang].

--- A month later ---

ICR: Magnetosphere too weak for an old earth.
Scientists: Didn't I say magnetosphere [umgawa]?

--- a month later ---

ICR: Magnetosphere too weak for an old earth.
Scientists: Did we not twice say magnetosphere [supercalifragilisticexpealidocious]?

--- a month later ---

ICR: Magnetosphere too weak for an old earth.
Scientists: What's the definition of "mental illness"? saying the same thing over and over, hoping for a change?
 
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If they can show evidence for such a claim, then they have a leg to stand on. But they can't since none of the evidence supports such a claim. But at least they tried.

And once again, if they're in the right, what do they have to lose? If they're right, then they can keep going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going and going.
 
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I bumped one of my oldies.

Just for you.
 
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I bumped one of my oldies.

Just for you.

I don't care about your 'oldies', especially one which you've been told is wrong repeatedly and before that was shown to be incorrect anyway, and just the general fact that you really don't know a thing that you're arguing against.

BUT if professional creationists from the likes of AiG, ICR et al are in the right, what do they have to lose by putting their thoughts and hypothesis out to the wider scientific community?
 
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I don't care about your 'oldies', especially one which you've been told is wrong repeatedly and before that was shown to be incorrect anyway, and just the general fact that you really don't know a thing that you're arguing against.

TYVM for the QED
 
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Oh, what's the QED this time?

Providing evidence doesn't work.

Also, you're not a professional creationist. You don't get paid for it (that I know of).

Right on both counts.

I'm just a retired ex-Navy vet, going out onto the [Internet] highways and bidding souls to the marriage.

Matthew 22:9 Go ye therefore into the highways, and as many as ye shall find, bid to the marriage.
 
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Oh ... ya ... I forgot.

Math can take a hike, can't it?

To you it definitely can. So can evidence, logical reasoning, any interpretation that doesn't fit yours, centuries of actual Christian doctrine and faith, any knowledge of history, language, technology...

You sure you're not a fitness nut?
 
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