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Descendant of David

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Mary was the descendant of David.
That is the main reason she accompanied Joseph for the census, she had to be recorded also.
As for Joseph, he too was of the line of David, from Solomon's brother.
You will find that the royal line was cursed (in Jeremiah 22: 30 This is what the Lord says:
‘Let the record show that this man Jehoiachin was childless.
He is a failure,
for none of his children will succeed him on the throne of David
to rule over Judah.’)
So Jesus could not come from Joseph's line.
But it was important in the culture of the day to show the lineage of a Jew.
That is why both Mary's (from Nathan, Solomon's brother) and Joseph's lineage were given in the gospels.
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As Joseph was not Jesus' biological father, why did it matter that he was a descendant of David? Should Mary have been the descendant of David, if it was that important?
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Really it was joseph who was of the line of David, is says so in the Scriptures. This is were several event fortold in Scripture come together, allow me to explain.

The importance of Jesus being born of the virgin was fortold by the prophets, this came to pass,and his step father was soon to be Joseph of the line of david.

The virgin birth is were God -by passing- the seed of a human man in the birth of his son , was the way Jesus did not receive to curse passed down from man seed all who were born of parents received.

But here is were it all gets good and a little deep to understand, but hang with me. When Joseph and mary got married, Jesus be came the adopted son of Joseph and jesus became heir to the throne of David and there fulfilling the promise made to david.

Jesus was grafted into the line of david, the Scriptures speak about us as Christians being grafted in. Jesus was even the first to be grafted in.It would seem Joseph is the one of the line of david, according to the Scriptures.

Like I guess it says in the Scriptures Jesus is the first of the first fruits of everything.

Peace in Jesus Name
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The scriptural answer is a bit involved, but suffice to say it involves the perfect Will of God and His promise to the line of David as prophesied.

When diving into scripture you will find a perfect circle of completion in everything God does. It is something that human beings sometimes have difficulty grasping because we sometimes fail to think in consideration in our lifes as a whole and our integrity -- and also might lack the ability through our imperfection.

The promise fulfilled and prophesy actualized was a blessing to all as promised by God. :)
 
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Mary was the descendant of David.
That is the main reason she accompanied Joseph for the census, she had to be recorded also.
As for Joseph, he too was of the line of David, from Solomon's brother.
You will find that the royal line was cursed (in Jeremiah 22: 30 This is what the Lord says:
‘Let the record show that this man Jehoiachin was childless.
He is a failure,
for none of his children will succeed him on the throne of David
to rule over Judah.’)
So Jesus could not come from Joseph's line.
But it was important in the culture of the day to show the lineage of a Jew.
That is why both Mary's (from Nathan, Solomon's brother) and Joseph's lineage were given in the gospels.
:preach:

That would make sense if true. However, others seem to be disagreeing with you. Where does it say that Mary is a decendant of David?
 
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Really it was joseph who was of the line of David, is says so in the Scriptures. This is were several event fortold in Scripture come together, allow me to explain.

The importance of Jesus being born of the virgin was fortold by the prophets, this came to pass,and his step father was soon to be Joseph of the line of david.

The virgin birth is were God -by passing- the seed of a human man in the birth of his son , was the way Jesus did not receive to curse passed down from man seed all who were born of parents received.

But here is were it all gets good and a little deep to understand, but hang with me. When Joseph and mary got married, Jesus be came the adopted son of Joseph and jesus became heir to the throne of David and there fulfilling the promise made to david.

Jesus was grafted into the line of david, the Scriptures speak about us as Christians being grafted in. Jesus was even the first to be grafted in.It would seem Joseph is the one of the line of david, according to the Scriptures.

Like I guess it says in the Scriptures Jesus is the first of the first fruits of everything.

Peace in Jesus Name
Rev Malone

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The scriptural answer is a bit involved, but suffice to say it involves the perfect Will of God and His promise to the line of David as prophesied.

When diving into scripture you will find a perfect circle of completion in everything God does. It is something that human beings sometimes have difficulty grasping because we sometimes fail to think in consideration in our lifes as a whole and our integrity -- and also might lack the ability through our imperfection.

The promise fulfilled and prophesy actualized was a blessing to all as promised by God. :)

Did this promise to David include Jesus being a biological decendent? That's the most important part here. Jesus was not a biological decendant of David unless Mary was also one. He could have been a legal decendant as the adoptive son of Joseph, however the value of that sounds questionable.
 
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here is a note in wikipedia that says something I have seen similar in other bible commentaries "Some conservative Christian scholars suggest that she, like Joseph, was also a descendant of King David (Many speculate that due to linguistic stylings of the time, the genealogy presented in Matthew may have been Mary's). " end quote

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_(mother_of_Jesus) under the heading "Mary in the New Testament". It seems unclear among scholars.
 
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As Joseph was not Jesus' biological father, why did it matter that he was a descendant of David? Should Mary have been the descendant of David, if it was that important?

from my bible study as a still young christian (5 years now), it seems God is just fulfilling a blessing He wanted to give David for being a great king (overall, yes he made mistakes). I believe it is also a prophecy sign to show who is the one God was telling Moses and others would come in bringing salvation.
 
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here is a note in wikipedia that says something I have seen similar in other bible commentaries "Some conservative Christian scholars suggest that she, like Joseph, was also a descendant of King David (Many speculate that due to linguistic stylings of the time, the genealogy presented in Matthew may have been Mary's). " end quote

WONT LET ME LINK TO WIKIPEDIA BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH POSTS YET under the heading "Mary in the New Testament". It seems unclear among scholars.

That would answer everything. Someone mistook a Greek pronoun for he instead of she and lead to my confusion.
 
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If you will notice in Matt. 1: 6 the son of David is Solomon. This the line of Joseph. But in Lk 3:32 it says the son of David is Nathan.
The two lines are referring to two separate people. There are only two people involved in the parenting of Jesus, if they are from diverging lines, there is not much more evidence required in my mind.
Other people may disagree, but that happens a lot with things that are not clearly spelled out.
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If you will notice in Matt. 1: 6 the son of David is Solomon. This the line of Joseph. But in Lk 3:32 it says the son of David is Nathan.
The two lines are referring to two separate people. There are only two people involved in the parenting of Jesus, if they are from diverging lines, there is not much more evidence required in my mind.
Other people may disagree, but that happens a lot with things that are not clearly spelled out.
:preach:

That would prove it.
 
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