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I have considered suicide many times in my life,(in the past) but there are 3 things that always stopped me--knowing that I'll cause people more pain by leaving than if I were to stay, the fear of phyisical pain, and the fact that God would not forgive me--I feel like if I take my own life it'd be like slapping Him in the face.
Now I have one more reason to add--My Mother is depressed and becoming suicidal and I want to try to help her out of it. I love her lots. Maybe if I help her it'll help me too, tho I think I'm pretty much OK now.

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I can relate to those reasons for me it would be me failing at another thing and however tempting it would be to just get out of the whole situatin forever i can't stand the thought of hurting ppl anymore than i do by being depressed in the first place! I'm not so sure how long I will be able to keep this perspective before the pressure to get out gets too strong so any prayer for that would be appreciated...undeserved but appreciated
 
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pockleberry said:
I can relate to those reasons for me it would be me failing at another thing and however tempting it would be to just get out of the whole situatin forever i can't stand the thought of hurting ppl anymore than i do by being depressed in the first place! I'm not so sure how long I will be able to keep this perspective before the pressure to get out gets too strong so any prayer for that would be appreciated...undeserved but appreciated

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pockleberry said:
I can relate to those reasons for me it would be me failing at another thing and however tempting it would be to just get out of the whole situatin forever i can't stand the thought of hurting ppl anymore than i do by being depressed in the first place! I'm not so sure how long I will be able to keep this perspective before the pressure to get out gets too strong so any prayer for that would be appreciated...undeserved but appreciated


You got my prayers!

When I'm not depressed killing myself seems like an alien thing to do but when depression bites deep and long it seems like the best way out. Strange how good intentions and even strongly held beliefs falter after a few months or so in the pit.
 
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Jeshu said:
You got my prayers!

When I'm not depressed killing myself seems like an alien thing to do but when depression bites deep and long it seems like the best way out. Strange how good intentions and even strongly held beliefs falter after a few months or so in the pit.

I know, story of my life...when I'm happy, even the worst problems seem insignificant, but if I'm depressed, stubbing my toe or spilling a drink makes me want to walk in front of a train... I'll be praying too, pockleberry. :prayer:
 
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DO NOT TELL THEM

That they are weak,
They are crazy
They are selfish,
Things will get better soon
What have you got to be so upset about?

wen i was suisidly my teacher said you need to get a grip girl and stop attention seeking

but my friend gave me a hug and said i will always be here even wen i m not
that helpd me so so uch i will never forget that day
 
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I think that suicidally depressed people need lots of unconditional love to stay alive. I say unconditional because depression paralyses us often to give anything back. The more people throw such 'cords' of love around the depressed person the harder it is to go out and kill oneself. When I get depressed I get cut of from everything good inside - but the love of my wife and children as well as a few other loving people is always around me. In the ultimate analysis, God has used them as protection from harming myself.
 
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Unconditional love, any love at all is something that has a very string hold over me when it comes to the point when im ready to give up...the fact that i cant give anything back kills me tho which is probably why i hate exceptng other ppl's love i cant and in most cases wont. What hurts me alot is that sometimes ppl that know me just asume that im overreacting to how i feel they dont believe that im at a point where i could actually commit suicide...sometimes i wish i could do it just to prove them that they're wrong...is that a really bad thing? does it make me a bad person? I just don't know anymore but i guess it does make me a bad person shows how selfish I am anyway
 
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pockleberry said:
..What hurts me alot is that sometimes ppl that know me just asume that im overreacting to how i feel they dont believe that im at a point where i could actually commit suicide...sometimes i wish i could do it just to prove them that they're wrong...is that a really bad thing? does it make me a bad person? I just don't know anymore but i guess it does make me a bad person shows how selfish I am anyway

Dear Pockleberry
If you suffer from clinical depression then you are not selfish if you want to die, or atleast I don't think so, you are just really sick and have come at the end of your emotional strenght. When we are in such a state then we need help and care, not accusations about how selfish we are.

Yes it does hurt when people refuse to accept our cries of pain. Yet try to forgive them as it is logical for they can not experience the emotional pain inside of the depressed and it all takes so long. For 'healthy' people the word down means feeling low-ish for an hour or two perhaps a day they can't truly know what it means to be clinical depressed.

(Hey you matter, please don't go and prove your loved ones wrong..)

God Bless.
 
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SHA77 said:
We must be careful to remember the Ten Commandments.:)

Thou shalt no kill. Exodus 20:13:mad:

In fact lets read the entire book of Exodus for information on how to live with the strength of Jesus. Exodus 20:prayer:

The Ten Commandments are to be utilized daily not to be taken for a suggestion. If we can keep this in mind, with constant prayer God will answer your prayer. The Lord knows you better than you know yourself, trust him, faith is key!:p

The saddest thing that can befall a soul is when it loses faith in God. Don't lose faith, Pray for wisdom , strength , guidance he will give to YOU. I know this for a fact.


May the Lord open your eyes and dwell within, may you know the glory of God and see the day of salvation in Jesus name :amen:

Dear Sha77,
There are many Christians today that fall to depression, but it doesn't mean they have lost their faith in God. Perhaps like me their faith is what keeps them waking up each day when they feel it would be easier not to.
Janice
 
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amazed_by_grace said:
To this I will also add: That this is caused by their lack of faith and they need to start having a better relationship with God, right here, right now.

While getting closer to God is, of course, a very important part of healing, telling someone that their depression or suicidal feelings are caused by their not feeling close to God and pressuring them to start wanting that relationship on the spot does NOT help. I can testify to this because it was said to me and it only pushed me further away. You can encourage them to spend more time in the Bible and tell them you will pray for them but you cannot force someone to want to be close to God.. it is not a genuine relationship unless they come seeking Him themselves. Lead them gently to some verses and things but the most important thing is to never give them something else to feel guilty about. Telling someone that this is their fault because they don't have a good relationship with God is about the biggest guilt trip I think that you could lay on a Christian! People cope with depression in different ways and some people may not draw close to Him in these situations through fear or something else.. I can say this because I felt that way too. This does not make these people bad Christians and making them feel like they are is not a caring thing to do. Hope this didn't sound too much like a lecture.. but I feel that it is very important...

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Jeshu said:
Dear Pockleberry
If you suffer from clinical depression then you are not selfish if you want to die, or atleast I don't think so, you are just really sick and have come at the end of your emotional strenght. When we are in such a state then we need help and care, not accusations about how selfish we are.

Yes it does hurt when people refuse to accept our cries of pain. Yet try to forgive them as it is logical for they can not experience the emotional pain inside of the depressed and it all takes so long. For 'healthy' people the word down means feeling low-ish for an hour or two perhaps a day they can't truly know what it means to be clinical depressed.

(Hey you matter, please don't go and prove your loved ones wrong..)

God Bless.

Yeah I know what u mean and understand that its not possible to understand if uve never been there...before i was depressed and started self harming i could never understand why anyone could do something as stupid as that now i see that its not stupid more often than not its a cry for help or an expression of pain. The last thing u said is wrong though i don't matter if i just ceased to exist one day ppl would get over me and very soon it would be as if i never lived...
 
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The biggest problem are the ones that don't talk about it and give no signs that things are that bad with their lives. My son committed suicide on 09 jun 2004, two days before he was hooting and hollering after coming back from rec centre with his friends.:prayer: I pray that God will guide you to help someone if you know they are struggling and give you the wisdom to know how to help them. I also pray that through the Grace of God that the depressed/suicidal will know they are trully not alone as God will never forsake them. Please God also hear the prayers of a heartbroken Mom:cry:
 
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angel82 said:
The biggest problem are the ones that don't talk about it and give no signs that things are that bad with their lives. My son committed suicide on 09 jun 2004, two days before he was hooting and hollering after coming back from rec centre with his friends.:prayer: I pray that God will guide you to help someone if you know they are struggling and give you the wisdom to know how to help them. I also pray that through the Grace of God that the depressed/suicidal will know they are trully not alone as God will never forsake them. Please God also hear the prayers of a heartbroken Mom:cry:
it helps to read what a mother goes through in a way you may not realize.depression makes you feel like nobody would miss you anyways.reading your post makes the mind more clear for anyone that may be considering suicide.
 
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soyness said:
i want to ask a question, if you kill yourself, do you go to hell? i heard both sides.
There is nothing in the bible that says suicide is a one way ticket to hell. The Christians who say it is are lying (and they know it). They may think they mean well, but they only cause more grief and make the situation worse in people. I don't condone suicide (it’s a sin) but I’ve been feeling depressed, and read some the views of fundamentalist Christians who come across as very condemning and superior. They were really pointing the finger at those who go through these tough trials saying it's their own fault for not having faith. It made me so angry that they take “pleasure” in taking scripture out of context to condemn those who are in the hardest point in life. Only God knows people’s hearts and only God will judge people’s decisions in life.
 
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