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Perceivence

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I was just wondering what are the doctrinal and other differences between the different Charismatic Denominations. (By that, I mean those like Word of Faith, Assembly of God and Pentecostals.) I'm under the impression that their similarities far outweigh their differences (it appears that's definitely the Holy Spirit's view), but I'd like to find out what these differences are.

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Perceivence said:
I was just wondering what are the doctrinal and other differences between the different Charismatic Denominations. (By that, I mean those like Word of Faith, Assembly of God and Pentecostals.) I'm under the impression that their similarities far outweigh their differences (it appears that's definitely the Holy Spirit's view), but I'd like to find out what these differences are.

Thanks in advance.
There are differences.... none of them heretical in nature.
 
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There's the story of the five blind guys who were describing an elephant. One grabbed the trunk and said an elephant is like a hose. One grabbed the leg and said an elephant is like a tree. One grabbed the tail and said the elephant is like a snake. One got lost and said the elephant doesn't exist, and one grabbed another and they started fighting...or something like that.
 
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Perceivence said:
I was just wondering what are the doctrinal and other differences between the different Charismatic Denominations. (By that, I mean those like Word of Faith, Assembly of God and Pentecostals.) I'm under the impression that their similarities far outweigh their differences (it appears that's definitely the Holy Spirit's view), but I'd like to find out what these differences are.

Thanks in advance.
Thanks for the link. A good informational site. There is no "Word of Faith" that I could find though.
 
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like the my computer / display / colors ....
16 , 256 , 16 bit , 24 bit ....

so are the Assemblies of God , Pentecostal , Word of Faith movements / denomination
with AG being most conservative and WOF being the most bold in their profession ...

From a seeker standpoint ... what if ?
test and see ( malachi 3.10 , 1 John 4.1 ) if it works ...
is it just that simple ? speak , believe , expect , give thanks ( genesis 1 and 1 John 5.14-18 )

From a evangalistic standpoint ....
what if Ezekiel 3.18-24 ; Ephesians 4.11-12 ; and Matthew 28 do indicate " believers authority " ; one body , many parts ( 1 Cor 12 ) ; all of us have some thing to do , when we become born again and spirit filled ( Ephesians 1.5,11 ) ?

Are we fully persuaded that Christ is who he said he is ? Are we fully persuaded that if we put God first , he will take care of all our needs -- Matthew 6.33 ?

then perhaps , we the church , should start acting upon what we profess to believe ...
 
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Diddy wrote
There are differences.... none of them heretical in nature.
Just to satisfy my curiosity, d., do you believe that United Pentecostal differences (baptismal regneration, rejection of the Trinity, equating the BHS with salvation, among other beliefs) to be heretical?
\o/
 
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Jim B said:
Diddy wrote

Just to satisfy my curiosity, d., do you believe that United Pentecostal differences (baptismal regneration, rejection of the Trinity, equating the BHS with salvation, among other beliefs) to be heretical?
\o/
Jmbo,
On a doctrinal level.... I dunno, maybe.
But on a practical, faith level... I doubt it.
This is why.
Teachings that are from the Spirit of God are like "real peaches", and teachings that are not from the Spirit of God are like "air peaches"... as long as you eat the "real peach", you could eat all the "air peaches" you want and not starve. You just have to eat the real one to get you saved. The "air peaches", as long as they do not prevent you from eating the "real peach", are not going to really hurt you.
I think it is accurate to say we ALL have some "air peaches" in our doctrinal grocery bags. But as long as we have and eat the real one, we will be OK.
Peace
 
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Jmbo,
On a doctrinal level.... I dunno, maybe.
But on a practical, faith level... I doubt it.
This is why.
Teachings that are from the Spirit of God are like "real peaches", and teachings that are not from the Spirit of God are like "air peaches"... as long as you eat the "real peach", you could eat all the "air peaches" you want and not starve. You just have to eat the real one to get you saved. The "air peaches", as long as they do not prevent you from eating the "real peach", are not going to really hurt you.
I think it is accurate to say we ALL have some "air peaches" in our doctrinal grocery bags. But as long as we have and eat the real one, we will be OK.
Peace
Ah ha!! The famous air peaches doctrine!

Diddy, you are a hoot. But I like the analogy. Personally, I have many UPC friends (since this is about the UPC) and I truly believe that they have faith in God (have eaten the Real Peach.) The, what I consider, erroneous doctrines they embrace are the non-essentials I am trying to nail down in the “Essential vs Non-Essential Doctrine” thread.

Thanx.

\o/
 
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If we go on a persuit to find the "right" church, happy hunting. All denominations have one thing in common. First, they have Jesus as the founding faith. He is the one that binds us together, to love one another.


Then comes the "irk" of the matter, All these churches are filled with people. LOL. And as long as they are human, you are going to have great differences as far as doctrine. Some due to fear of learning anything more, and they are afraid that anything outside their oringinal acceptance is in jeapordy some how, if something else is learned in Gods word.

As your understanding of the word grows, and your church does not seem to fill that desire to know more about God. There may be a time that you will have to move on, if you feel like your not being fed any more. Or if your real strong in your faith, you may want to stay and let the Holy Spirit reveal these truths to the Body. But since we're dealing with people, this may not happen. You have to be willing to learn from the Holy Spirit.

I dont think the Holy Spirit expects the church to remain babies all their lives. But it seems like every church has the main message to offer. And that message is Jesus.

I have had to move on several times in my Christian life, but I have learned so much from each one. I have grown. And I'm thankful to each.
 
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Umm isn't believing in Jesus only contrary to the Word of God? I realise in practice we all seem to focus on Jesus but we cannot ignore the work of the Holy Spirit and the love of the Father - the very reason Jesus came! The three work together, never separate but always together.

If we are adding to the Word then I feel there's an issue (isn't the Word of God clear that we serve a tri-une God, Father, Son and Spirit?) What about Jews who only believe the Father is God? I don't know the answer, God is the Lord of all mercy and grace, so while I think it IS heresy I'm not sure whether you can cal this a sin... any takers? people who preach false doctrine will get their just desserts... whether this doctrine is esteemed the same way I'm not too sure... but for me it's the Trinity all the way, and the three are ONE.
 
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Jim B said:
Diddy wrote

Just to satisfy my curiosity, d., do you believe that United Pentecostal
Jesus only folks ... that part is a doctrinal error ; differing with Asseblies of God ; other Charismatic / Pentecostal Sects ; Word of Faith ; Four Square Gospel , etc.

differences (baptismal regneration, rejection of the Trinity,
which is basically the only protestant exception to the Nicean Creed ....

equating the BHS with salvation, among other beliefs) to be heretical?
bhs .... healing , atonement , not salvation .... Isaiah 53.3 ; Matthew 8.17 ; 1 Peter 2.24 which are acquired by faith ... just as Romans 10.8-9 ; Ezekiel 36.26 are ...
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On another thread we are discussion how denominational officials seek to do the thinking for the rest of their constituents by adopting a core doctrinal statement, drafting “position papers,” writing denominational “perspectives” etc. Each of these are designed to centralized debate, narrow the scope of accepted beliefs and practices, and control the thinking and actions of the group/denomination.

Each time a “position paper” is offered isn’t it, in fact, just laying another brick in the wall that separates believers?

And, isn’t that a deliberate violation of the will of Christ as expressed in John 17. 20"My prayer is not for them alone. I pray also for those who will believe in me through their message, 21that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me.”?

\o/
 
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