DEMONIC OPPRESSION VS POSSESSION ??

[Solomons Porch]

What is the difference between oppression? possession? torment?
AND can you describe the difference between these? By providing your story or situation that you have either personally witnessed or has happened to you. Whether you even know the difference or not, can you at least share your story by providing insight into this realm. Thank you and blessings in Jesus name

 

[4x4toy]

What is the difference between oppression? possession? torment?
AND can you describe the difference between these? By providing your story or situation that you have either personally witnessed or has happened to you. Whether you even know the difference or not, can you at least share your story by providing insight into this realm. Thank you and blessings in Jesus name

imo .. I'm no expert but Oppression is constant attacks , possession takes up residence and causes sickness , derangement or both .. I've cast out demons with prayer and fasting, alcohol demon from my father and also a boss I was working for at the same time .. Another one was a man I witnessed to who was extremely obese, I could discern that under his rough exterior that he felt ashamed to go to church because he was obese .. God lead me to pray and fast for a few days . About six months later he dropped by the house and I said 'wow how did you lose all that weight' ,he was still pretty big but much smaller , He said 'I don't know I just started eating right one day and I started losing weight.
At the same time a couple people started losing weight at church ..
I had a preacher friend who I talked to at work who came in one day and told me how he'd cast out 7 devils out of a teenage girl the day before, how he spoke to them, what they said ,how they lied and played possum , finally after about a two hr battle they left the child .. Pretty extreme

 

[Solomons Porch]

imo .. I'm no expert but Oppression is constant attacks , possession takes up residence and causes sickness , derangement or both .. I've cast out demons with prayer and fasting, alcohol demon from my father and also a boss I was working for at the same time .. Another one was a man I witnessed to who was extremely obese, I could discern that under his rough exterior that he felt ashamed to go to church because he was obese .. God lead me to pray and fast for a few days . About six months later he dropped by the house and I said 'wow how did you lose all that weight' ,he was still pretty big but much smaller , He said 'I don't know I just started eating right one day and I started losing weight.
At the same time a couple people started losing weight at church ..
I had a preacher friend who I talked to at work who came in one day and told me how he'd cast out 7 devils out of a teenage girl the day before, how he spoke to them, what they said ,how they lied and played possum , finally after about a two hr battle they left the child .. Pretty extreme

So in the one that was obese, through discernment did you call it by name ? And I agree with your above description between the 3 differences. And I can only suppose that the ones you cast out did not take long at all because the anointing was upon you?

I know that (some) take quite a while to deal with and like to play dead, I have dealt with those quite often.

 

[PROPHECYKID]

What is the difference between oppression? possession? torment?
AND can you describe the difference between these? By providing your story or situation that you have either personally witnessed or has happened to you. Whether you even know the difference or not, can you at least share your story by providing insight into this realm. Thank you and blessings in Jesus name

I cannot speak from personal experience but from what I have heard from others. The other poster was right. I see oppression and torment to be similar. This is when demons are trying to attack or attacking you or your surroundings to affect you. Possession is when a demon has taken residence inside you and is controlling you. I saw a very long interview about a man who had joined a secret society of demon worshippers and couple of days before he was supposed to be initiated he met a christian man and began studying the bible with him. He was later oppressed by the spirits for quite a while. He said there were nights when he would be constantly bounced up and down on his bed. Lights would turn of and on, etc. He eventually made some changes by getting rid of all of the stuff he had in the house about the occult, etc and he commanded the spirits to leave him alone in Jesus' name and then he had peace finally. So that was oppression and torment.

 

[Solomons Porch]

I cannot speak from personal experience but from what I have heard from others. The other poster was right. I see oppression and torment to be similar. This is when demons are trying to attack or attacking you or your surroundings to affect you. Possession is when a demon has taken residence inside you and is controlling you. I saw a very long interview about a man who had joined a secret society of demon worshippers and couple of days before he was supposed to be initiated he met a christian man and began studying the bible with him. He was later oppressed by the spirits for quite a while. He said there were nights when he would be constantly bounced up and down on his bed. Lights would turn of and on, etc. He eventually made some changes by getting rid of all of the stuff he had in the house about the occult, etc and he commanded the spirits to leave him alone in Jesus' name and then he had peace finally. So that was oppression and torment.

Yes I see that being totally true, you have to be very careful with things or groups and people you come in contact with. A while back the Lord had me remove 2 items from my home that I would have never guessed would cause issues, and shortly thereafter things calmed down quite a bit. One of the items was a simple garden gnome and the other was a gift from a lady that looked very innocent but the Lord revealed it wasn't.

 

[PROPHECYKID]

Yes I see that being totally true, you have to be very careful with things or groups and people you come in contact with. A while back the Lord had me remove 2 items from my home that I would have never guessed would cause issues, and shortly thereafter things calmed down quite a bit. One of the items was a simple garden gnome and the other was a gift from a lady that looked very innocent but the Lord revealed it wasn't.

Yes! It can be anything you received from someone involved in occultism even if the item itself is innocent. The same guy was talking about how he was contacted by a lady being oppressed and when he asked her if she had anything in the house given to her by anyone who had any sort of involvement in occultism she said she got a bible from a lady who she thinks used to practice witchcraft. When she threw away that bible the oppression ceased.

 

[Solomons Porch]

Yes! It can be anything you received from someone involved in occultism even if the item itself is innocent. The same guy was talking about how he was contacted by a lady being oppressed and when he asked her if she had anything in the house given to her by anyone who had any sort of involvement in occultism she said she got a bible from a lady who she thinks used to practice witchcraft. When she threw away that bible the oppression ceased.

Its truly amazing "how" evil spirits can follow an object or music.....really just about anything. And then it gives them legal right.

 

[PROPHECYKID]

Its truly amazing "how" evil spirits can follow an object or music.....really just about anything. And then it gives them legal right.

Yep. That is why you have to be careful about who you accept things from and who your friends are.

 

[Grandpa2390]

It is impossible for a Christian to be possessed by demons. But if I would take oppression to mean being under attack.

Demon possession is scary. The demon takes control.

 

[Solomons Porch]

It is impossible for a Christian to be possessed by demons. But if I would take oppression to mean being under attack.

Demon possession is scary. The demon takes control.

Yes demon possession is extremely scary. But I wonder of those that say they are a Christian but are under a certain denomination that doesn't follow the "full gospel" and again on this site I cannot call those out, but it makes me wonder. I have found many call themselves a Christian and believe nothing close to what I believe.

 

[frettr00]

It is impossible for a Christian to be possessed by demons. But if I would take oppression to mean being under attack.

Demon possession is scary. The demon takes control.

Try watching some Bob Larson exorcisms. A lot of people he helps are possessed Christians.

 

[Solomons Porch]

Oh yes I have watched those and many more. I suppose the issue arises when someone "claims" to be a Christian but the fruit you see from them or discern is the deal breaker. I was a member of a church several years ago and the pastors wife was possessed, nobody knew but me because it manifested itself in a prayer meeting early one morning. She never recalled the incident. It began screaming at me to "shut up and leave her alone" , wasnt even near her or close to her. The anointing causes strange things to manifest. Must be ever watchful.

 

[CrystalDragon]

imo .. I'm no expert but Oppression is constant attacks , possession takes up residence and causes sickness , derangement or both .. I've cast out demons with prayer and fasting, alcohol demon from my father and also a boss I was working for at the same time .. Another one was a man I witnessed to who was extremely obese, I could discern that under his rough exterior that he felt ashamed to go to church because he was obese .. God lead me to pray and fast for a few days . About six months later he dropped by the house and I said 'wow how did you lose all that weight' ,he was still pretty big but much smaller , He said 'I don't know I just started eating right one day and I started losing weight.
At the same time a couple people started losing weight at church ..
I had a preacher friend who I talked to at work who came in one day and told me how he'd cast out 7 devils out of a teenage girl the day before, how he spoke to them, what they said ,how they lied and played possum , finally after about a two hr battle they left the child .. Pretty extreme

How exactly is "obesity" caused by demons? Saying that is how people used to think seizures and sleep paralysis were caused by demons.

 

[Solomons Porch]

How exactly is "obesity" caused by demons? Saying that is how people used to think seizures and sleep paralysis were caused by demons.

Hello CrystalDragon
I cannot answer for 4x4's personal situation at that time. But when the "anointing of the Holy Spirit" comes upon you, you are able to discern (by the H.S. only) what is going on with a person. A person CANNOT do this outside of the anointing or calling upon their life, but in some instances a person may have a "moment" when God reveals something to them that is not seen by the natural eye of man. When a person has a calling to deal with deliverance, usually and not always they can detect what is causing a persons issues. And again it cannot be done without "the Trinity" fully living and alive in your life. Just an example.....My aunt had called me over one day just to talk, as we sat and talked for a while nearing the time I was about to leave she asked would I pray for her, that she is feeling very very lonely and she wanted me to pray against that overwhelming feeling that she could not shake. So I told her that I would be glad to, as we prayed the Holy Spirit revealed to me, in and by thru the anointing, that it was not a spirit of loneliness that was tormenting her, but it was a spirit of grief. Mind you this is nothing I can do within myself as previously mentioned. I pray against the spirit of grief and to her amazement she called me later to thank me and said that it was gone. And now 8 months later is still gone. Had I prayed for what "she" thought it was, nothing would have happened. Every person and every situation is different and it takes the call upon a persons life and the anointing of God to discern, fight and remove it from a person.

 

[4x4toy]

How exactly is "obesity" caused by demons? Saying that is how people used to think seizures and sleep paralysis were caused by demons.

I don't know except I prayed for the guy and fasted for 7 day , He never knew it . I prayed for demonic activity concerning his obesity to be cast out , it was in Jesus name , call it what you like .. A couple people who was big began to eat right and lose weight at the same time , I say glory to Jesus .. Fast and pray for 7 days and see if you can't move a mountain or two in Jesus name..

 

[Grandpa2390]

Yes demon possession is extremely scary. But I wonder of those that say they are a Christian but are under a certain denomination that doesn't follow the "full gospel" and again on this site I cannot call those out, but it makes me wonder. I have found many call themselves a Christian and believe nothing close to what I believe.

I agree. I know what you are talking about. I don't want to get into a debate on the issue. But suffice it to say I use to attend a church that was the reincarnation of the Corinthian Church in 1 Cor 14

 

[Grandpa2390]

Try watching some Bob Larson exorcisms. A lot of people he helps are possessed Christians.

Then they are not true Christians. Or those are not true possessions. I believe in exorcising demons.

Study your bible. A true Christian cannot be possessed by a devil. Even the thought itself is a contradiction. If the Holy Spirit dwells in you... how can a devil.

 

[4x4toy]

So in the one that was obese, through discernment did you call it by name ? And I agree with your above description between the 3 differences. And I can only suppose that the ones you cast out did not take long at all because the anointing was upon you?

I know that (some) take quite a while to deal with and like to play dead, I have dealt with those quite often.

No but it was apparent he was needing some kind of deliverance , I never mentioned his size , he was kinda cold but kinda humble at the same time if that makes any sense .. But God put it in my heart to intercede pray and fast on his behalf and given his new countenance and weight loss during the time frame I'd say the prayer was effective immediately .. I've slowed down a bunch since I've got older but when I look back I've had a lot of incredible experience and testimony of Jesus .. I never had a desire to be part of any church authority except for working with youth groups or singing in a choir occasionally if they ask so I don't even know what goes on behind the scenes or care .. I've had plenty bad times too but I will not dwell on them, it cramps my style .. I could write a book on the things I've seen Jesus do .. Be a doer and not just a hearer ..

 

[frettr00]

Then they are not true Christians. Or those are not true possessions. I believe in exorcising demons.

Study your bible. A true Christian cannot be possessed by a devil. Even the thought itself is a contradiction. If the Holy Spirit dwells in you... how can a devil.

Well listen to what the exorcist himself has to say, then decide. He's performed over 30,000 exorcisms, many of which were on Christians.

 

[Solomons Porch]

Well listen to what the exorcist himself has to say, then decide. He's performed over 30,000 exorcisms, many of which were on Christians.

May I just add this thought into this just as an example and to hopefully provoke thoughts to ponder and ask the Lord to reveal......

TRUE STORY
In my mid 20's I was a young mother, worked full time, lead worship and praise team within my Pentecostal church, I was on fire and living for the Lord striving to do and be my very best for HIM.

Our praise team was invited to visit a church (pentecostal) about 2 hrs away. We drove there, loaded up equipment, had family members present and filled 2 pews within this church. Everybody there was polite and loving. We "seemed" to fit right in and was invited by a very well known southern gospel group. So I suppose the church/pastor thought highly of the singing group and said yes please bring them and have them minister in song to us during our revival.

I had not met the pastor by this time and we were half way into the service and not yet called up to sing. I had asked a friend that knew the pastor and pointed him out, asking was that him, sitting 2 pews in front of us, on the front row, she said yes it is.

Nearing the time for us to go up, the lady gospel singer asked if she could speak with me outside, I found this very strange and agreed to go outside with her and see what was the matter.

Upon standing outside she said " I am soooooo sorry", tears coming down her face in humiliation, knowing how far we traveled. Said.... the preacher said you and your group cannot sing today UNLESS you go to the bathroom, remove your makeup, take off your earrings and repent, or else you do not sing and you have to leave.

You cant imagine how horrible and yet angry I felt. I thought now I have to go back and tell 2 pews of ppl that came this far, that we will not be participating in todays service and we may have to leave. It felt like someone punched me straight in the gut, for some of the members of the praise team was young in the Lord and was so happy and excited to be a part of this. I was devastated and had a horrible decision to make for I felt that I had to protect them from this what i call "religious spirit".

I took my seat, preacher still sitting 2 rows in front of me, long sleeve shirt and sleeves slightly rolled up. He was covered in tattoos and kept looking slightly back at us. I thought to myself, Lord I am not one to judge, and we came here to glorify Your name. What do I do Lord???

Makeup was not heavy, almost natural to the look. Earrings were small. I mean its not like they were flashing red light earrings, nor our clothing, NOTHING.

As I sat there I heard the Lord tell me this....... Do not move and speak no words. Tell no one nothing, I will make a way for you and you will know when it is time. So I sat there wanting to cry (for those this would hurt).......waiting for the time the Lord said He would provide.

40 minutes into the service.....the southern gospel singers looked at me and said, praise God for sending this group here today and they came to minister.......and before she got any further, God said go NOW.

I started walking up to the front, she looked at me like oh my, i smiled and gave a praise to God for having us here today, looked at my team and said guys if you would come on up now were gonna praise the Lord together. And we sang, hands clapping, people standing worshiping the Lord with us.

I never told the group about this incident as to protect the baby nature. So they left with joy as the Lord told me say nothing. Point is, this man, this preacher claimed to be a christian, full gospel etc.......

At the end of the service, I made him shake my hand. The look of distaste was disgusting to me. But I held my head up and thanked him for the invitation. Almost 2 months later, i got a letter in the mail 4 pages long, someone that attended there apologized for they knew this had happened and that it greieved them this occured. My point is half this congregation claimed to be christians.....

I am a christian, but we must be careful who we mark ourself as, lots of christians are under a false teaching and preaching and that in itself can cause possession. Sorry so long, and thanks