demon torment?

[bbyrd009]

Hmmm. I think I can relate. Do you feel the loving peace from God, but in the pits of your heart its almost numbness and despair? Its like a cordial cherry...the peace of God is the sweet cherry inside but part of me is still so hard and wont let go of the deep- grained sadness...and sometimes I even like to swim in my own pool of despair..its quite strange.

Ha, amen; I remember those days. We make Christian zombies here in the US; and it is because of the doctrine of Original Sin. Don't think I can post a link quite yet...but you can get an overview of this--the subject of the past couple years of study for me--by googling Recognize the Fallacy of Death Centric Western Christian Models, an overview of Matthew Fox's Original Creation; and let the Spirit be your guide. These feelings you describe are the Spirit telling you to make a change in your spirit life; be bold here! God will not let go of your hand, if you are seeking a better understanding of Christ. Peace.

 

[ancientsoul]

thank you i am being careful i do pray more than once a day and try my best demon or not something not from me or the lord is trying to get to me it could be my past thoughts still with me or something like that but i dont know how to get rid of it i feel like its just something i need to deal with and to leave the rest to god after thinking but although im spotting when it is not from me and reasureing myself the sadness and overthinking which makes me anxious it difficult to deal with as it kinda comes out if nowhere i have a therory that god is leading me further down my path but this thing is dragging me back or at least trying to if god wants me to fight this to keep me strong i wonder how long itll be for

yvw ... i know you are doing the best you know how ... and you know what ... that's really all the Lord wants ... is for us to do the best we know how ... this is a very difficult thing to have to deal with ... causing much doubt, pain, and hearetache ... but, yet ... the Lord is right there with you every moment ... loving you ... watching over you ... it was said keep your eyes on Him ... and so it is ... such good advice ... you can do this! because you have a God mightier and stronger and more loyal and faithful than all! you aren't in this alone He will NOT leave you and He will NOT forsake you ... if you can't hold onto anything else when it's at worse times ... then, just remember that ... call out to HIm when you need ... cry to Him when you need ... He is the One who fills needs ... a little tip ... i know many like the word demons ... some perspective: demons are nothing more than spirits not of the Lord ... they don't need any more credit than that ... there are many ... anger, greed, etc. ... in scripture ... even the 'demons' knew, understood, and respected who He is ... they are and they are helpless in the face of Jesus ... just call out His name ... and hold on when you start feeling 'lost' remember He knows exactly where you are ... just remember back to whatever point you knew and begin again there ... it's all good ... what we break He can fix ... what we don't know He does ... you WILL be alright ... i know it is a VERY lonely road ... keep your chin up ...

 

[ancientsoul]

an after thought ... pay close attention to emotional tides ... hormonal times ... things tend to escalate in those times ... paricularily if it is medical ... but more so, it's a starting point ... start journaling this journey and you will gain insight to triggers and times and such ... sometimes there simply is no rhyme or reason ... but usually so ... you can help others help you by having this info available ... no matter what the root ... He is still in control ...

 

[bbyrd009]

Amen. And, for what it's worth, when one is close to a...loggerheads? turning point? in these matters, it is usually when we give up, as strange as that may sound, that God can then take over, if you will, or that is when we begin relying on God, when we have kind of stepped out of the way? that healing can begin. You remain in my prayers!

 

[Angelfrog]

This sounds like typical reactions to many mood elevating or enhancing drugs. The worst problem is that they are bad and they are addictive. Cold turkey usually imparts some significant withdrawal; the point being, nasty stuff. There is something you can take; pm me. You must first address this before you examine the depression, which is usually just a signal that one needs to make a change. You are in my prayers.

Hon- I know you mean well- but I wouldn't recommend asking someone to contact you to suggest a particular drug/ remedy/ treatment/ whatever that they can take. As you might have seen in the mod note- it's against rules to give medical counselling- and recommending something that can be taken may fall into that. Just because it would have been private (if the OP could have used om function yet) doesn't make it wise.

I'm sure that you would probably have given cautions as well- but please remember that even 'harmless' treatments can have detrimental effects. For example, I've had many people recommend echinachea to me to boost immunity. What they haven't realised is that, although that may be fine for most people, I have a blood condition which means that that particular natural 'harmless' remedy would do me more harm than good.

Same with any natural/ manmade supplement/ treatment/ pill etc.

Unless you know the person's medical history and what things they can or can't 'take'- it's not wise to recommend anything, especially when it's for a condition like possible depression. It's also not a very good idea to imply that anti-depressants are 'bad' and 'addictive'. Again- not accurate.

Only the OP's doctor should be advising him whether to sort out a different issue before addressing depression, hon. We don't have the right, or the expertise here to make that call.