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Democrats wobble as pressure to end shutdown ramps up

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Maybe Republicans feel that certain things are worth the price going up. I know my mother said as much applies to her. She realized that the benefit temporary ( the enhanced that is) and realizes that time is up.
Eggs going from $1.50 a dozen to $5 is "the price going up." Medical insurance going up to over $1000 a month is for many a death sentence--and the executioners are Republican Congressmen, Senators, and the president.

How can you be so cavalier about your mother realizing her "time is up?" My children would never settle for that...
 
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Eggs going from $1.50 a dozen to $5 is "the price going up." Medical insurance going up to over $1000 a month is for many a death sentence--and the executioners are Republican Congressmen, Senators, and the president.

How can you be so cavalier about your mother realizing her "time is up?" My children would never settle for that...
Her time is not up again she realized the enhanced benefits were temporary and as she is in her early 60s she knows what enhanced and temporary mean. They do not mean forever OR completely gone.
 
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Ironically, by leveraging human suffering. How quaint.
Yes. And Republicans, then, would be complicit in that.
As stated, the human suffering brought on by that budget will be significant. THAT'S on Republicans...if human suffering is ACTUALLY something you care about.

See, Republicans are okay with suffering during the shut dowon AND they are okay with suffering from the outcome of this bill. Frankly, they are fighting for the suffering IN this bill...and those changes would (should) be FAR more long lasting.

The Democrats are willing to have a bit of suffering to negotiate less suffering later.

All this as an aside there is actually several billion in reserve funds that Trump is able to authorize in an emergency like this for SNAP benefits, but he doesn't seem willing to.

Shutdown standoff: Why experts say the Trump administration is sitting on SNAP funds

The party of punishing the poor is at it again. Gee golly.

It's funny reading the Dunning Krugering about economics as people hope that "welfare folks not getting food stamps" will lower the prices of food since supply will be higher.
 
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Her time is not up again she realized the enhanced benefits were temporary and as she is in her early 60s she knows what enhanced and temporary mean. They do not mean forever OR completely gone.
No one is arguing that your mom wouldn't know what they mean.
The argument is that's gonna have a big affect on your mom's health and she could and should fight for it. Or at least people who CARE About her could advocate for it.

Sounds like you're totally cool with that.
 
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No one is arguing that your mom wouldn't know what they mean.
The argument is that's gonna have a big affect on your mom's health and she could and should fight for it. Or at least people who CARE About her could advocate for it.

Sounds like you're totally cool with that.
so then why would she ( and others not argue for the government to re-open so they could work on a deal. Republicans need 60 votes they have ( even if they were to vote as a single block 53. They need the democrats help to re-open the government. The republicans have said they are willing to talk when the government opens back up if they run out of time it will expire and then both sides lose.
 
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No way was the GOP going to allow more illegals to received taxpayer funded healthcare nor support a 1.5. trillion dollar new spending package including trans, LGBTQ, or DEI funding in foreign countries.
Great. Because health plans for illegals is not what's happening. Neither is this about funding "LGBTO or DEI".
 
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so then why would she ( and others not argue for the government to re-open so they could work on a deal. Republicans need 60 votes they have ( even if they were to vote as a single block 53. They need the democrats help to re-open the government. The republicans have said they are willing to talk when the government opens back up if they run out of time it will expire and then both sides lose.
If they are willing to talk then, they would be willing to talk now.

Fact is, they won't be willing to talk then.
 
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and in most states if you riot and loot if you get shot it is going to be considered justified. This is true even if the person who shoots you is a civilian.
It probably depends on the situation. Just like some police officer shootings are ruled as justified, and others are ruled as manslaughter or murder. I recently saw a news story about a couple of armed numbskulls who tried to rob a gun store. The owner of course was also armed and shot one of them while the other one ran away. I doubt the owner will be charged.
 
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Yes. And Republicans, then, would be complicit in that.
As stated, the human suffering brought on by that budget will be significant. THAT'S on Republicans...if human suffering is ACTUALLY something you care about.

See, Republicans are okay with suffering during the shut dowon AND they are okay with suffering from the outcome of this bill. Frankly, they are fighting for the suffering IN this bill...and those changes would (should) be FAR more long lasting.

The Democrats are willing to have a bit of suffering to negotiate less suffering later.

All this as an aside there is actually several billion in reserve funds that Trump is able to authorize in an emergency like this for SNAP benefits, but he doesn't seem willing to.

Shutdown standoff: Why experts say the Trump administration is sitting on SNAP funds

The party of punishing the poor is at it again. Gee golly.

It's funny reading the Dunning Krugering about economics as people hope that "welfare folks not getting food stamps" will lower the prices of food since supply will be higher.
Everything in your post is factually incorrect.
 
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and in most states if you riot and loot if you get shot it is going to be considered justified. This is true even if the person who shoots you is a civilian.
Not in SC. That stuff does not float here. We will ask Trump for NG on every street corner. Democrat violence is a definite no-no, and would crash on them hard.
 
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Everything in your post is factually incorrect.
I like how you took the time to explain why you'd make the pronouncement.

It's my favourite thing cause why should I listen to that? No point. Gimme something to sink my teeth into if i'm "Factually incorrect".
 
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