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Oh no, I lije it when the radicals are out in the open, so we can all see who they are. That way the American people are clear who the Democratic Party is, what they are all about and who is running it.So basically you don't like it because she doesn't belong to your culture club.
The Western Journal.
This again?Yes we have a Democratic congresswoman who admitted where he allegiance lies first.
So radical for a child of immigrants having pride in her heritage! What would you have from her? To repudiate her roots?Just another example of radicals taking over the Democratic Party.
Again that shows how messed up the Democratic Party is right now. Of course its not the only thing.Who was the alternative again, the sexual abuser?
The key difference here is democrats are apparently rejecting their sex pest candidates instead of electing them to high office.Again that shows how messed up the Democratic Party is right now. Of course its not the only thing.
So? How many articles and videos would you like me to post? Even she didnt deny saying it.The Western Journal
Is that why they rejected him? Or was it the fact that he wasnt that great and killed thousands of old people during COVID? Or maybe it was because they WANT a communist. This is the direction of the Democratic party. Radicals taking over.The key difference here is democrats are apparently rejecting their sex pest candidates instead of electing them to high office.
I have no idea. I don't live in New York.Is that why they rejected him?
Could be. He's carrying a ton of baggage and running on name recognition alone doesn't seem to be cutting it.Or was it the fact that he wasnt that great and killed thousands of old people during COVID?
Kind of like the GOP of about a decade ago. They could have gone with a more centrist but the people wanted a radical outsider to shake things up. You can understand that sentiment, right?Or maybe it was because they WANT a communist. This is the direction of the Democratic party. Radicals taking over.
Me too and I'm also hoping more candidates like him start to spring up around the country. Clearly the old Biden, Obama, Clinton, Pelosi, Schumer Cuomo establishment wing of the party isn't drawing in voters like it used to.I honestly hope he wins. So, we can see for ourselves how this works out. I think it will fail. But I could be wrong. I really want to find out. Instead if talking about it, we could see it in full action in America.
This again?So? How many articles and videos would you like me to post? Even she didnt deny saying it.
MSN
Speaking from a podium during her visit, a video clip shows the Illinois Democrat at one point expressing pride in her Guatemalan ancestry, saying the following in Spanish, which essentially translates to English as: “Let me ‘finish by saying a few words in Spanish’ because I’m a ‘proud Guatemalan before I am an American.’”
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She is says she is a proud Guatemalan before she is an American. She never lived in Guatemala and wasnt raised there. Her parents were ILLEGALS, who shouldn't have been here. Yet it was AMERICA who gave her citizenship and allowed her to stay and be afforded the great opportunities this country has to offer. She became a CONGRESSWOMAN after all. Yet she still says that? Note that she attended
A summit for progressive leftist lawmakers. she is a leftist who supports social justice and other leftist ideologies which includes hating America.
Do I think think she should be deported? I do not support illegals coming here and having babies and getting to stay and the children being citizens. But I understand that is not how the kaw was interpreted by SCOTUS. So, it is what it is. She can't be deported. So quite frankly the right should lay off with that.
But her words are clear. She puts her heritage of being Guatemalan ahead of her American heritage. All of us in the US have a heritage of somewhere else. I have a strong Scottish heritage and I'm from an immigrant family. I wasn't born in the US. But I am a proud American before I'm a Scottsman. I've never lived in Scotland. I love my family heritage, but I am an American first and foremost. I'm a proud citizen of this great country first and foremost!
While I do think rjs330 was wrong to previously respond to you without really addressing this point you raise, appealing to an automated translation isn't the greatest defense because... well, even if they've gotten a lot better, automated translations makes errors all the time (not that humans are immune, but automated translation is worse). When companies try cutting corners by trying to translate things via automated translations, they tend to get blowback because the translations are noticeably worse.This again?
There is another thread on this subject in which @wing2000 gave the translation which I have no reason to doubt and plenty reason to believe:While I do think rjs330 was wrong to previously respond to you without really addressing this point you raise, appealing to an automated translation isn't the greatest defense because... well, even if they've gotten a lot better, automated translations makes errors all the time (not that humans are immune, but automated translation is worse). When companies try cutting corners by trying to translate things via automated translations, they tend to get blowback because the translations are noticeably worse.
Now, the phrase she said was:
"Yo soy guatemalteca con mucho orgullo primero que soy americana."
I'm not fluent in Spanish, but I know it decently well, and the phrase seems off to me. I don't think "primero que" is really grammatically correct here in either interpretation ("before I am American" or "first I am an American"). This seems confirmed, for example, by this (conservative) writer who knows Spanish in National Review:
Congresswoman Delia Ramirez Forfeited Her Guatemalan-ness | National Review
Who in their right mind voluntarily spends their weekend at a pro-Castro conference alongside a bunch of leftists who quote Che Guevara?www.nationalreview.com
As tends to happen anytime a “Latino issue” breaks the internet, my phone’s been lighting up like a Sábado Gigante prize wheel with translation requests since last night. This time, the drama comes courtesy of Illinois Congresswoman Delia Ramirez, who took the stage at a far-left conference in Mexico City last weekend and proudly declared: “Yo soy guatemalteca con mucho orgullo primero que soy americana.”
I get the confusion from my no hablo pals. Her Spanish was mangled. The proper phrasing for such verbal excrement would’ve been “antes de ser americana” — but the meaning was crystal clear: I’m proudly Guatemalan before being American.
Thus it looks to me like, because the Spanish isn't correct, people have been giving various translations based on what they think she was trying to say. But it definitely can be interpreted as her saying she was Guatemalan before American.
Snopes, hardly a conservative source, has an article on the subject that notes what I've mentioned:
Unpacking claims House Democrat said she considers herself 'proud Guatemalan before being an American'
The Illinois Democratic representative made a statement in Spanish that sparked much debate.www.snopes.com
The article's discussion of it lines up pretty well with what my own research has told me. It ultiamtely concludes:
Considering this, it is possible she meant to imply she considers herself a proud Guatemalan first and foremost and said exactly what she meant. However, given that Ramirez began her speech in English and switched to Spanish for this brief segment, it is also possible she intended to say she is a proud Guatemalan but considers herself an American first and simply used confusing syntax that led some interpretations astray.
However, if all that was going on was she phrased something incorrectly and that led to people reversing what she was trying to say, why didn't she just clarify that? As the first article I linked (the National Review one) went on to note:
Some of her defenders now claim she meant the reverse: that she’s American first but proud of her roots. The problem is, that’s not what she said. A sentence like that would’ve been structured a little differently. Still, if it is what she meant, she had a perfectly plausible excuse: “Spanish is my second language. I speak Latinx.”
Instead, she claimed no one would’ve cared if she’d said she was proud to be European, which is obviously absurd. Had John Boehner stood before the EU in Brussels and said, “I’m German-Irish before American,” he would’ve gotten the Tom Hagen treatment.
The fact she didn't simply clarify she was trying to say she was American before Guatemalan (and that poor phrasing led some to the opposite interpretaiton) lends considerable credence to the translation saying she was Guatemalan before American.
And yet other Spanish speakers say that the phrase would most plausibly be interpreted as "before I'm an American."There is another thread on this subject in which @wing2000 gave the translation which I have no reason to doubt and plenty reason to believe:
WATCH: Democrat Rep. Delia Ramirez at Summit in Mexico City Tells Audience in Spanish: “I’m a Proud Guatemalan Before I’m an American” – DHS Responds
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/08/watch-democrat-rep-delia-ramirez-summit-mexico-city/ A lot of Democrats are puzzled as to why their approval rating is down in the polls.www.christianforums.com
WATCH: Democrat Rep. Delia Ramirez at Summit in Mexico City Tells Audience in Spanish: “I’m a Proud Guatemalan Before I’m an American” – DHS Responds
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/08/watch-democrat-rep-delia-ramirez-summit-mexico-city/ A lot of Democrats are puzzled as to why their approval rating is down in the polls.www.christianforums.com
Whenever I have seen those words on CF, it has been used to dehumanize, offend, and sow discord.illegal alien
[ih-lee-guhl eyl-yuhn, ey-lee-uhn]
Phonetic (Standard)IPA
noun
Often Disparaging and Offensive.
- a foreigner who has entered or resides in a country unlawfully or without the country's authorization.
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