Define "Hell" [fun thread]

[Ramona]

Hmm, how appropriate.

 

[UberLutheran]

Being locked in a room for all eternity with a bunch of fundamentalists who "love the sinner and hate the sin".

 

[Tinker Grey]

I think this topic is more about revealing something about ourselves, our lives, and our circumstances.

I don't think it mocks hell or the concept thereof at all. Hell is merely the premise of our self revelation.

 

[Ramona]

Being locked in a room for all eternity with a bunch of fundamentalists who "love the sinner and hate the sin".

*WF runs from the thread screaming*

 

[HannahBanana]

My personal version of Hell would have me as the hostess for a party with hundreds of people. Eek!

 

[ExistencePrecedesEssence]

Being locked in a room for all eternity with a bunch of fundamentalists who "love the sinner and hate the sin".

Sounds like No Exit with a twist. :X

 

[UberLutheran]

The US isn't the only country in the world you know. (adding smilies so you know that while I am taking the mick I do so in a light hearted way)

It isn't?????

I'm confused, Athene. What are some "other" countries in the world -- and if they actually are independent countries, what must the U.S. do to acquire them?


[just kidding!!!]

 

[UberLutheran]

The US isn't the only country in the world you know. (adding smilies so you know that while I am taking the mick I do so in a light hearted way)

Seriously, Athene: what towns might be considered "dinky" (in the Sheffield, TX sense of the word -- sans prickly pear cactus and mesquite trees, of course!) in Great Britain?

 

[.Sabre.]

Seriously, Athene: what towns might be considered "dinky" (in the Sheffield, TX sense of the word -- sans prickly pear cactus and mesquite trees, of course!) in Great Britain?

Hythe, Fawley, Beaulieu

three examples of tiny villages as friendly as Westboro.

 

[Pogue]

Hythe, Fawley, Beaulieu

three examples of tiny villages as friendly as Westboro.

I can't even pronounce them, and being British, I'm used to crazy placenames!

 

[Abbadon]

Hell is puberty. The after effects are plenty fun but puberty itself is not, especially when you have to deal with other people, especially when most of them are also going through puberty. Also when you have a problem, most people only say "Oh, I'm sorry," or "Oh, try praying" (as if that hasn't already been done), or they throw the cliche or afterschool-special advice (there's plenty of other fish in the sea, better to have loved then lost than to have never loved at all, a smile is a frown upside down, there's always a silver lining, etc). Usually good advice hurts and people don't have the balls do give it. Sorry about the rant.

Are you mocking me or the words and teachings of Jesus in the New Testament ?

There is a difference between mocking Jesus and mocking a literal interpretation of what could very well be metaphorical. The burning of hell is the warmth of God's love when we have no physical body to distract us from the realization we don't deserve it, it's not a physical flame. The worms are the thoughts that tear down the shallow and artificial self-worth we have constructed as false identities instead of realizing our true potential as images of God. Then there's the second death, where we realize we weren't truely alive to begin with. That is hell, and although the place in Christ's time where all the locals burned thier garbage is an extremely apt metaphor, it is not a geographical description because psyche isn't hyle.

Hythe, Fawley, Beaulieu

I can't even pronounce them, and being British, I'm used to crazy placenames!

The last would be pronounced "Bow-lu" in the part of the south I live in, as long as it was a local street or town (we've got lots of folks descended from Huguenots here). Since there aren't any Beaulieues in the immediate area (that I'm aware of), I'd probably get funny looks for trying to get the locals to pronounce the name.

 

[UberLutheran]

Hell is puberty. The after effects are plenty fun but puberty itself is not, especially when you have to deal with other people, especially when most of them are also going through puberty. Also when you have a problem, most people only say "Oh, I'm sorry," or "Oh, try praying" (as if that hasn't already been done), or they throw the cliche or afterschool-special advice (there's plenty of other fish in the sea, better to have loved then lost than to have never loved at all, a smile is a frown upside down, there's always a silver lining, etc). Usually good advice hurts and people don't have the balls do give it. Sorry about the rant.

The only thing I can think that might be slightly worse than that is going through puberty while realizing that one is gay; and realizing that the guys we have incredible crushes on are actually attracted to girls and that we simply cannot relate to being physically attracted to the opposite sex AND knowing that there are plenty of straight guys who are going through puberty who are going to beat the snot out of us if they realize we're attracted to them.

The only good things I have to say about puberty is that it lasted only a year, and I did manage to find a support network (even in 1967!), and I came out as a sophomore in high school in 1970 (and I've never looked back).

The last would be pronounced "Bow-lu" in the part of the south I live in, as long as it was a local street or town (we've got lots of folks descended from Huguenots here). Since there aren't any Beaulieues in the immediate area (that I'm aware of), I'd probably get funny looks for trying to get the locals to pronounce the name.

My gut instinct would have been to pronounce it "Bowl-you."

I'm not fond of Louisiana for the most part, but I really like the Cajun parts of the state: the Cajuns and the Huguenot-descended people are some of the friendliest and most down-to-earth people one will find.

My heart still breaks for the people down around Buras, Boothville and Venice for when the eyewall and storm surges of category five hurricanes Camille (200 mph winds) and Katrina (175 mph winds) came through: both hurricanes brought 30 foot storm surges AND 40-foot waves on top of those storm surges. If you see the water tower at Boothville, remember that it was completely covered with water with 40 foot waves on top of that.

 

[ExistencePrecedesEssence]

The only thing I can think that might be slightly worse than that is going through puberty while realizing that one is gay; and realizing that the guys we have incredible crushes on are actually attracted to girls and that we simply cannot relate to being physically attracted to the opposite sex AND knowing that there are plenty of straight guys who are going through puberty who are going to beat the snot out of us if they realize we're attracted to them.

The only good things I have to say about puberty is that it lasted only a year, and I did manage to find a support network (even in 1967!), and I came out as a sophomore in high school in 1970 (and I've never looked back).



My gut instinct would have been to pronounce it "Bowl-you."

I'm not fond of Louisiana for the most part, but I really like the Cajun parts of the state: the Cajuns and the Huguenot-descended people are some of the friendliest and most down-to-earth people one will find.

My heart still breaks for the people down around Buras, Boothville and Venice for when the eyewall and storm surges of category five hurricanes Camille (200 mph winds) and Katrina (175 mph winds) came through: both hurricanes brought 30 foot storm surges AND 40-foot waves on top of those storm surges. If you see the water tower at Boothville, remember that it was completely covered with water with 40 foot waves on top of that.

Coming out around that time wouldn't of been too bad, would it? Since the whole counter-culture and such.

 

[Abbadon]

I'm not fond of Louisiana for the most part, but I really like the Cajun parts of the state: the Cajuns and the Huguenot-descended people are some of the friendliest and most down-to-earth people one will find.

I'm from SC and have never been to Leesiana.

I had considered leaving an I in between the L and U, producing a sound to your pronunciation, but here lieu ("in lieu of") ends up pronounced as "lu" unless someone is reading it. I'd say there is no southern accent, there's a southern dialect with various accents.

Coming out around that time wouldn't of been too bad, would it? Since the whole counter-culture and such.

Nooooooo.... There are parts of the south that haven't progressed much beyond the '50s. It'd be a brave move coming out where I live and I live in one of the most metropolitan southern cities (we even have a really big wikipedia article).

 

[UberLutheran]

Coming out around that time wouldn't of been too bad, would it? Since the whole counter-culture and such.

Actually, it was pretty awful. Southern Indiana is really conservative, and I made the mistake of thinking that since the Christopher Street riot occurred the previous summer and Gay Liberation was now going, it was perfectly all right to declare myself.

However, I made the "big announcement" in one of my classes, simply by standing up and making "the announcement". They still talked about it when my partner and I went back for my 30th class reunion.

But as for counterculture: I was involved in the Moratorium Against the Vietnam War (where we war black arm bands and discussed the war in all of our classes and what we could do to stop the war, including nonviolent resistance); very active in my high school chapter of the Students for a Democratic Society (SDS); helped organize a successful school boycott; and helped organize our school chapter of Lambda (for gay and lesbian students) — which really wasn't bad for a 16-year-old.

 

[Domenico]

Worse than going through puberty - Watching everyone else go through puberty, and not going through it yourself.

 

[.Sabre.]

I can't even pronounce them, and being British, I'm used to crazy placenames!

My point is that they're pretty hostile for people like me.

I'll be out of this ruddy forest soon, though! But it will never be soon enough!

 

[progressivegal]

Worse than going through puberty - Watching everyone else go through puberty, and not going through it yourself.

Agreed.

 

[Im_A]

By this logic, why not just make fun of everyone's misfortunes ?

i don't laugh at misfortunes...but i laugh at people's stupidity/bad choices...or the idea of a God sending his "precious" creation to hell.

and to answer your question... I seriously doubt that I would ever walk through the gates of heaven if I had the mindset of one who spent his life lauphing at his family members who were burning and rotting in hell.

That is not love.

that's not what i meant. what i meant is, is i'm predicting that the last thing your going to worry about when you enter heaven is your family and friends rotting away in hell (if you personally believe or "know" they are) so i'm the type of person that deals with things that bother by making comedy out of it. because your going to be seeing everything about God, Jesus, the saints, whatever heaven looks like. the so called love will be non-existant at the sight of "God". it's just a temporary love.

 

[UberLutheran]

Being tethered to a certain well-known CF poster for all eternity while she cycles through her religious and political changes...