Deep devotion to Donald does not make a person a Christian.

[GingerBeer]

Christians follow Jesus. Supporting Donald Trump is not the same thing as following Jesus. That's too obvious to need saying, right? So why do people act like supporting Donald is a Christian duty - come on people, Donald isn't one of the twelve apostles or something.

Seek Jehovah while he may be found, call upon Him while he is near. Let the wicked forsake his ways and the unrighteous man his thoughts. Let him return to Jehovah, and he will have mercy upon him, and to our God, he will abundantly pardon.

For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, says Jehovah. For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.​

Isaiah 55: 6-9.

 

[Albion]

Christians follow Jesus. Supporting Donald Trump is not the same thing as following Jesus. That's too obvious to need saying, right? So why do people act like supporting Donald is a Christian duty - come on people, Donald isn't one of the twelve apostles or something.

People who say that also applied it to Barack and all previous presidents. That is to say that they consider it a Biblical principle to respect lawful secular authority.

 

[Thedictator]

Christians follow Jesus. Supporting Donald Trump is not the same thing as following Jesus. That's too obvious to need saying, right? So why do people act like supporting Donald is a Christian duty - come on people, Donald isn't one of the twelve apostles or something.

Seek Jehovah while he may be found, call upon Him while he is near. Let the wicked forsake his ways and the unrighteous man his thoughts. Let him return to Jehovah, and he will have mercy upon him, and to our God, he will abundantly pardon.

For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, says Jehovah. For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.​

Isaiah 55: 6-9.

Who said to follow Trump like you would follow Christ?

 

[GingerBeer]

Who said to follow Trump like you would follow Christ?

Not the original post.

 

[dreadnought]

Christians follow Jesus. Supporting Donald Trump is not the same thing as following Jesus. That's too obvious to need saying, right? So why do people act like supporting Donald is a Christian duty - come on people, Donald isn't one of the twelve apostles or something.

Seek Jehovah while he may be found, call upon Him while he is near. Let the wicked forsake his ways and the unrighteous man his thoughts. Let him return to Jehovah, and he will have mercy upon him, and to our God, he will abundantly pardon.

For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, says Jehovah. For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.​

Isaiah 55: 6-9.

Yes, we are followers of Jesus, not Donald, and if Jesus asks you to vote for Donald, vote for Donald.

 

[GingerBeer]

Yes, we are followers of Jesus, not Donald, and if Jesus asks you to vote for Donald, vote for Donald.

Jesus has more sense than to ask Christians to vote for Donald.

 

[dqhall]

Jesus has more sense than to ask Christians to vote for Donald.

After the Access Hollywood tape revealed Trump bragging lewdly was aired on TV and the Internet, I supported other candidates. God does not recommend adultery and fornication. I researched the Trump campaign's alliance with the Kremlin in order to get information stolen from DNC servers by Russian intelligence made public. The Trump campaign colluded with Russia. It was a conspiracy; a criminal syndicate. Breaking into someone's computer to steal is like breaking into a house to steal.

 

[dreadnought]

Jesus has more sense than to ask Christians to vote for Donald.

What's wrong with Donald?

 

[Micah888]

So why do people act like supporting Donald is a Christian duty

ROMANS 13
[1] Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.

[2] Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.

[3] For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:

[4] For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.

[5] Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake.

[6] For for this cause pay ye tribute also: for they are God's ministers, attending continually upon this very thing.

[7] Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour.

 

[gordonhooker]

What's wrong with Donald?

That depends on which Donald you are referring to. Donald Duck or Donald Trump?

 

[GingerBeer]

That depends on which Donald you are referring to. Donald Duck or Donald Trump?

The Donald in the white house. The duck one is a cartoon figure.

 

[GingerBeer]

ROMANS 13
[1] Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.

[2] Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.

[3] For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:

[4] For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.

[5] Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake.

[6] For for this cause pay ye tribute also: for they are God's ministers, attending continually upon this very thing.

[7] Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour.

Do you think honour is due to every President of the USA? Really?

 

[GingerBeer]

What's wrong with Donald?

Tweets, perfidy, concupiscence, envy, greed, lust, and probably many many more things are wrong with him.

 

[gordonhooker]

The Donald in the white house. The duck one is a cartoon figure.

Got it! One wears sailor outfits and no trousers and the other one is a duck

 

[Albion]

Not the original post.

Interesting. The OP gave us a good example of what they call a strawman argument, didn't it--present a statement or POV that is attributable to no one...and then proceed to discredit it?

 

[GingerBeer]

Got it! One wears sailor outfits and no trousers and the other one is a duck

A quack if not a duck.

 

[dreadnought]

That depends on which Donald you are referring to. Donald Duck or Donald Trump?

Donald Trump.

 

[dreadnought]

Tweets, perfidy, concupiscence, envy, greed, lust, and probably many many more things are wrong with him.

I don't think tweets are a sin. It's the only way he can get his thoughts out to the people.

Perfidy? I think that's a matter of opinion.

Envy? I see no evidence of this.

Concupiscence and lust - we are all sinners. Just because someone accuses you of a sin that happened long ago doesn't make you a bad person. The Lord has forgiven you and me for our sins.

Greed? He gives his president's salary away to worthy causes.

 

[Mountainmanbob]

Jesus has more sense than to ask Christians to vote for Donald.

Or not to.
M-Bob

 

[GingerBeer]

I don't think tweets are a sin.

Read them. They are full of lies (lying is a sin) character assassination (calumny is a sin) and boasts (pride leads to many sins).

Or not to.
M-Bob

Jesus asks his people to avoid becoming part of the world. It's no good for church leaders to advise their people to vote this way or that in a worldly political fight.