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Sometimes extra exposure to truth causes people to change false views.
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Sometimes extra exposure to truth causes people to change false views.Dude, you don't have to post the entire quote just say you agree, especially in the immediately following post.
I agree with the Canons of Dordt, but I part ways with Calvin on ecclesiology, especialy in the area of church discipline.
Yeah I noticed. Got to read it 2 times in a row
I was wondering if anybody else noticed.
Now I'm trying to figure out how Servetus became Catholic. Maybe he's being confused with one of his brothers.
But I've never heard a RC respond, never mind admit, that Servetus was already on the Inquisition's execution list:
"On April 4, 1553 Servetus was arrested by the Roman Catholic authorities, and imprisoned in Vienne. He escaped from prison three days later. On June 17, he was convicted of heresy by the French inquisition, "thanks to the 17 letters sent by Jehan Calvin, preacher in Geneva"[15] and sentenced to be burned with his books. An effigy and his books were burned in his absence." from Wikipedia
Exactly.
Our God is different from the God that Calvinist believe in.
Perhaps that would be more productive!Is this the ten-minute argument or the full half-hour?
(Monty Python)
Haven't you got something better to do, like scare some poor innocent kid with talking about hell?
"Debunking Calvinism with Scripture"
or
"Throwing gasoline on a fire to put it out"
Jack, you better make the distinction between doctrine and dogma.
So Michael Servetus was murdered by Calvinists.....because he was Catholic? Did John Calvin have anything at all to do with this murder?
Don't worry Jack, your safe on the other side of my monitor from me.
And not only that. I also learned that before Servetus's execution, he was kept in an atrocious dungeon with no light or heat, little food and no sanitary facilities. A wreath strewn with sulfer was placed on his head at the execution site. Green wood was used during the execution because it took longer to burn. It is said that it took over half an hour for Servetus to burn to death. While he was being burned alive, he cried from the midst of the flames "Jesus, Son of the eternal God, have mercy on me."Yes, according to many it was through Calvin's leadership that this happened.
But as to Catholic??? Do not know...
What I got from Wiki:
On April 4, 1553 Servetus was arrested by the Roman Catholic authorities, and imprisoned in Vienne. He escaped from prison three days later. On June 17, he was convicted of heresy by the French inquisition, "thanks to the 17 letters sent by Jehan Calvin, preacher in Geneva"[15] and sentenced to be burned with his books. An effigy and his books were burned in his absence.
Meaning to flee to Italy, Servetus stopped in at Geneva, where Calvin and his Reformers had denounced him. On August 13, he attended a sermon by Calvin at Geneva. He was immediately recognized and arrested after the service[16] and was again imprisoned and had all his property confiscated.
Unfortunately for Servetus, at this time Calvin was fighting to maintain his weakening power in Geneva. Calvin's opponents used Servetus as a pretext for attacking the Geneva Reformer's theocratic government, so any mercy would have been taken as a sign of weakness. Also, the French Inquisitors asked that Servetus be extradited to them for execution, and Calvin wanted to show himself as firm in defense of Christian orthodoxy as his usual opponents. "He was forced to push the condemnation of Servetus with all the means at his command."[
Nah. The Puritans got that beat. They must have picked up some bad doctrines from the Roman PapacyI know Calvinism is bad but I am surprised anyone is saying it is that bad...
And not only that. I also learned that before Servetus's execution, he was kept in an atrocious dungeon with no light or heat, little food and no sanitary facilities. A wreath strewn with sulfer was placed on his head at the execution site. Green wood was used during the execution because it took longer to burn. It is said that it took over half an hour for Servetus to burn to death. While he was being burned alive, he cried from the midst of the flames "Jesus, Son of the eternal God, have mercy on me."
And John Calvin gave the orders for this to happen.
No, not next. Unlike Calvin, David, Paul, and Moses REPENTED. Calvin remained unrepentant about his murder until his dying breath.and Moses , King David and Saint Paul killed men ........... next !
No, not next. Unlike Calvin, David, Paul, and Moses REPENTED. Calvin remained unrepentant about his murder until his dying breath.
Was Larry Norman a Calvinist?and Moses , King David and Saint Paul killed men ........... next !
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