Debating Creationists

[Gottservant]

No, no it isn't. You can just assert this all you like, but I am not interested in your sloppy thinking.

This accusation is so unfounded I almost don't know where to begin.

That is another assumption of yours, that the universe requires meaning to exist. Unsupported.

I suggest you think these things through more before you assert them as if they are facts.



I came to the realization that the assumption of a God is the basis for your argument (and thus it is quite circular), not that your argument is a coherent or good one.

Quite the opposite really. And, it's quite simple really, all this logical dancing you do is trying to hide the fact that you have assumed your conclusion true before you ever started.

Projection.

You're like a sand spider. You've dug a hole for yourself and the first bite that comes along you grab it and bury yourself with it and then after its gone, you wait for the next bite, never venturing out into the world around you to do more than drag peoples arguments to their doom.

I'm not convinced.

What is more, you are not trying very hard to convince me.

If what you believed was even close to the truth, you would be using arguments of various kinds to sway me to your position.

Data: if I string it out into little bits so that there is data at every point you care to examine, you will believe you have the truth? It's that simple? You are that easily deceived?

 

[Gottservant]

Look, I've thought about it, let's do it your way Variant.

Tell me what data I should believe in first.

Pick something.

Pick something and tell me why I should believe in that as opposed to all the other data.

If you tell me believe in "this piece of dirt" because of "gravity", that would be the principle of gaining strength from according with the truth of a principle NOT DATA.

 

[Lollerskates]

This accusation is so unfounded I almost don't know where to begin.



Projection.

You're like a sand spider. You've dug a hole for yourself and the first bite that comes along you grab it and bury yourself with it and then after its gone, you wait for the next bite, never venturing out into the world around you to do more than drag peoples arguments to their doom.

I'm not convinced.

What is more, you are not trying very hard to convince me.

If what you believed was even close to the truth, you would be using arguments of various kinds to sway me to your position.

Data: if I string it out into little bits so that there is data at every point you care to examine, you will believe you have the truth? It's that simple? You are that easily deceived?

Why are you using parables (slash metaphor...) not even the disciples got it when Christ was around...

 

[variant]

This accusation is so unfounded I almost don't know where to begin.

You've asserted a position for me several times now regardless of being corrected.

More rude now than sloppy.

What is more, you are not trying very hard to convince me.

You're right I'm not, you quite honestly aren't up to the task (or worth it).

I buried you days ago on the single point we were debating; so there's nothing in it for me anymore.

 

[Gottservant]

You've asserted a position for me several times now regardless of being corrected.

More rude now than sloppy.



You're right I'm not, you quite honestly aren't up to the task (or worth it).

I buried you days ago on the single point we were debating; so there's nothing in it for me anymore.

You've done nothing but accuse me of sloppy thinking, without answering almost anything, you are convinced that data is your answer to everything and yet it never occurs to you that your imagination in this area is almost zero, then you come back and talk to me as if my logic doesn't matter and the average guy on the street is going to be on your level if he just believes that barreling through life the way you do is the only entertainment he'll ever need.

Sorry, but I'm not sticking around for the abuse, conversation over.

 

[variant]

You've done nothing but accuse me of sloppy thinking, without answering almost anything,

I didn't answer the questions that lead from the position you asserted for me, and I don't intend to.

Note for your future conversations, it is entirely rude to assert peoples positions for them and then argue against them as straw men.

It won't get you the effect you desire.

Sorry, but I'm not sticking around for the abuse, conversation over.

The conversation has been over for a while now.

 

[CounselorForChrist]

When I debate I say "I'm right, your wrong. Next subject!". Seriously I've found debating to be pointless. Unless one likes spending their entire life time going in circles in debates.

 

[Spikey4672]

To answer the actual question posted
To believe in evolution, you must believe everything came from nothing. The entire universe, all matter as we know it, was created from nothing. Not only that, but it just so happens that of these balls of matter one just so happen to land next to another one that just so happend to be a sun and it just so happend that this ball of matter has another smaller one orbiting it and it just so happend that a plethora of different elements just happend to get together and just happend to bond and just happend to stay bonded and just so happend to join other elements that did the same (i think you see were im going with this). If anything, evolution takes 100X more faith to believe in then intelligent design. To believe in intelligent design is simply to state there is something beyond the bounds of nature that created all matter. Much easier to believe in my opinion, added after almost 150 years there is still no solid absolute proof for evolution