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Dealing with PMDD Wife

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I no longer know where to turn. After 7.5 years of relationship and 2.5 years of marriage to a Filipina wife who has PMDD I can no longer take the abuse, spiritually, emotionally and physically.

I started to clue in to the PMDD last year and several months ago we went to see a women's health specialist. She prescribed birth control pills and everything changed and normalized and I discovered I had the most wonderful wife on earth (without pmdd symptoms).

A few weeks ago my wife stopped taking birth control pills because of a yeast infection and now dr jeckl has once again turned into mr Hyde.

Again she started screaming when I wasn't doing anything to her, hitting me, kicking me, attempting to rip the veins out of my wrists. She is now refusing to take the birth control pills which normalize her hormones.

Last year the police placed a domestic violence protection order against her for 2 years because she was beating me up.

As a Christian what am I supposed to do? I don't have enough income to go it alone and I love her when she is in her right mind. She needs to have the pill to be normal.

She doesn't think she has a problem but her behavior is so extreme it scares me.
 

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My heart certainly goes out to you. My wife has had some extreme hormonal swings at times, but it's an occasional one-off thing, rather than a monthly thing. She doesn't get violent, but she has gotten kind of argumentative, easily hurt, cried a lot, and said a bunch of emotional stuff that are coherent sentences, but are just hard for me to relate to.

In addition, my wife can get moody during PMS. The times she's gotten really extreme seem like they are related to pregnancy, like when she had post-partum blues or when her cycle kicked in after breast feeding. Does your wife act like that for a week out of every month, or is it more common than that?

My wife's PMS issues seem to have improved. Part of the problem, I think, was that she seemed to think the solution was for me not to do things that irritated her, but it seemed like just regular stuff irritated her. As she came to take more responsibility for her emotions, she's gotten better. And also she prays a lot about these things, and the PMS argument and moodiness has decreased.

I don't always succeed, but I least I know when this happens my course of action is not to get drawn in to the emotional whirlwind. It's easy to get caught up into an argument, especially if you don't know the hormonal emotion attack thing is going on. So I have to know when to be quiet, or when to kind of not focus on what she's saying and say emotionally comforting words ("I'm sorry you feel that way.")

I don't know a solution for your issue with her being violent. I haven't had to face that. Does she remember how she was after she snaps out of her emotional turmoil? Does she regret it and apologize? Or does she act kind of like she was justified because she felt bad and it is your role to be her emotional and physical punching bag? If she regrets it, maybe she would be willing to go to some kind of therapy where she learns to focus her attention and take responsibility for her emotions. You don't want to just rely on hormone pills.

When she's in her right mind, you may need to talk to her about taking responsibility for herself during those times. Don't have the conversation too soon, because you might think she is emotionally leveled out, but she could go back into one of those dark hormonal moods.

When she's in her right mind, how would she fill about you taking a course on restraint, the kind of course people who work in mental hospitals and youth detention facilities take, where you learn to restrain a violent person without hurting the person? You can run this by her when she is in her right mind. When my wife's in a mood, she's admitted later, that even though she says, "Don't touch me" part of her wants me to give her a hug. If she gives you permission (maybe in writing) to restrain her if she's violent when she's in her right mind, maybe the two of you could talk through things you can do if she gets out of control.

She has to be on your side, though, when she's normal, in trying to find solutions. And she has to have a commitment when she's her 'normal self' not to be violent.

On the spiritual side of things, you might also want to go to a pastor who has some experience with deliverance ministry to pray for her. There could be a spiritual root, even if there are also physiological causes. You could go to someone for healing prayer. There are pastors, healing rooms ministries. Some people will be willing to meet with her repeatedly over a long period of time to pray for healing or deliverance from this problem. Ultimately, however it is achieved, God is the source of healing and deliverance for these things. And it is good to just approach Him in faith and prayer and expect Him to answer your prayer.

My wife was going through some moodiness during her last pregnancy, nothing violent, but she was hard to get along with. She'd have said the same about me during those times. But one night, after everything had turned into an argument every night for several nights, I said something so bland and neutral, I couldn't understand how she got upset. She surprised me because I couldn't find her in the apartment and the van was gone. A little while later, I got a call from her. She'd gone to a motherly older Christian Filippina friend who mainly listened and encouraged a bit, who encouraged her to call me. I spent the time praying for my wife. I prayed about a list of problems I had with her, things I think she needed to improve on on her end in our marriage. There were some specific things, too, and things I'd never really felt free to talk to her about, like the idea that how she saw her parents interact effected our marriage.

I stated my requests and asked God to speak to her. I told God that she was His daughter, and argued that it was not His will that His daughter be this way. I told Him that the Bible teaches that whatever we ask according to His will, we know that we will have it. So I asked Him to speak to her and to change her. I could know that I have it because it is according to His will. I explained why, based on the Bible, why I believed it was His will. Then I trust Him to do it. That was one of those times in my life where I can say that I prayed in faith.

A couple of nights later, she asked me to sit down next to her on the couch. I was a bit apprehensive. Did she want to argue again? She sure looked nice and sweet the way she was talking. She told me God had spoken to her about some things she'd been doing wrong in our marriage. She talked me through my prayer list, but in much more detail. But she touched on most of the specific details. I perceived something demonic was giving her ideas about me once, and then she said something attributing totally wrong motives to me. I had prayed about that that night. She mentioned this to me. It was totally amazing to me that she was telling me how God had spoken to her to correct her about the very list of things I had asked God to speak to her and correct her about just a couple of nights before.

This was pregnancy, so there was no PMS, but it was like extended PMS. But after that night, she was just so sweet. She'd be standing around crying. I'd ask her why. She was regretting that she'd said or done something to me. She went through a time of introspection and re-evaluation.

Before that, when she had PMS, we'd have these long conversations that would start at 10 PM, basically monologues where, she in very repetitive fashion, would talk about all the things that were wrong with me. I was in grad school not working, and she thought we weren't being blessed financially because something was fundamentally wrong with me spiritually. It was often something vague like that, not something specific that I could examine. Now, if there were something obvious, she'd point that out, too.

Of course, if my wife sees I'm doing something wrong, she'll tell me that, and she is free to as far as I'm concerned if she goes about it in a good way. But she's not as critical as she was before that time of repentance. She's had a few big PMS mood swings and some regular PMS grumpiness since then, but the whole issue is not as severe.

I've also stopped placating her, stopped taking blame so readily for her emotions. I've tried to put the responsibility for her emotions on her, and things like that on my end. But mainly the response to prayer is what helped her.

I know your troubles are in a whole different league than mine. But from the perspective of God's power, the differences are miniscule. He is so powerful can deliver your wife from this problem. He can shine the light on things in her thoughts and attitudes that open her up to act this way. So pray in faith for your wife to be free from this and I will agree with you.

Yours in Christ,
Link
 
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Link. Your post just reduced me to a blubbering mess. I've been crying out to God but that conviction from God has not happened yet. There is a healing pastor coming to my church tomorrow night and I'm going with it without my wife. I feel like I'm hanging on by the very last thread and about to let go and go into free fall.

I'm going to make up a prayer list like you talked about. I believe God led my wife and I together, I led her in prayer as she made a personal decision for Christ. I saw her do a discipleship training school for 6 months. All in answer to prayer.

Ive been saying less and less over time and praying more and more. To the point I've been getting it right. Yesterday I did restrain her, I put my arms around her and hugged her.

In the beginning she started screaming I was hurting her and that was a lie. She actually did apologize later for that. At one point she stopped fighting and I spoke gently and calmly to her and as I looked into her eyes my spirit pictured this coat hanger type wire frame in the shape of her body. I saw the words going in and electrifying this wire and her spirit calmed. It was like the words the Holy Spirit gave me in that moment cut through all the defenses and touched the spirit man inside of her.

I'm going to read and re read your post and pray through it all.
 
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Day 3. After what Link shared I made a choice to place myself of the cross and just hug my wife. I didn't know what was going to happen. She came my way and apologized but there is no heart conviction yet. She did take a birth control pill on her own but it will take a few days for hormones to settle.

Today after church (our church is in a movie theatre in a mall) she wanted to check our a shoe shop. I started feeling really unsettled because she's spent so much money on shoes and clothes and hand bags that have all been expensive and we've not had any money left to do anything fun.

Her response was another temper tantrum. If she doesn't get what she wants she throws a fit. She doesn't see income as family income and is being selfish. I'm not allowed to express my concern over our finances or else she blows up. It always seems to be about her. And if she doesn't get what she wants there is hell to pay or our divorce is over.
 
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Today after church (our church is in a movie theatre in a mall) she wanted to check our a shoe shop. I started feeling really unsettled because she's spent so much money on shoes and clothes and hand bags that have all been expensive and we've not had any money left to do anything fun.

If you handle the finances and the cards are jointly held under your name, maybe you could cancel them, and you dole out the cash. If she has times where she regrets spending money, she may agree to let you be the gatekeeper on the money.

Her response was another temper tantrum. If she doesn't get what she wants she throws a fit. She doesn't see income as family income and is being selfish. I'm not allowed to express my concern over our finances or else she blows up. It always seems to be about her. And if she doesn't get what she wants there is hell to pay or our divorce is over.

I'm sorry to hear that. That's a difficult situation to be in, her threatening divorce over things like that. When she calms down, you'll have to have a talk about that. You could take the stance that 'things aren't cool' between you until she sincerely apologizes about the divorce threat, and she agrees to stop doing that. Keep your cool, but make a big deal about that. She has to see that as dangerous. That may be a good time to what God's word says about divorce. This assumes there are times when she is calm and thinking right. If she's always selfish, it may be difficult.

There are a couple of blogs by a husband and wife team, The Peaceful Wife, and The Respected Husband. The wife has a number of YouTube videos to go with her blog. They may be good for your wife. The blog is by a woman who thought she was a good wife, but realized how disrespectful she had been to her husband for years and years. There is also a woman named Jane Ferrer or something like that on YouTube. I think crytogod is her husband's channel and may have a few of her videos. Her videos are also good and are along the same subject line, though she's more into deep Bible studies on all topics aimed at women.
 
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Your wife's behavior is not PMDD; at least that's not the only thing going on here. She sounds like she has serious mental health problems. I'd take her to a psychiatrist instead of a gynecologist. PMDD should only last a few days a month. If she's acting this way the majority of the time, it's not due to PMDD. The fact that the birth control pills helped her symptoms does tell me that she suffers from some kind of hormonal issue, but PMDD does not cause a woman to physically attack others and act like a raving psychotic. PMDD can make a woman feel awful, but it doesn't make a woman do anything; she's still choosing her behaviors.

I suspect she may need a combination of psychological and hormonal treatment.
 
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It isn't the majority of the time. It happens 100% like clockwork when her period comes. It is dr jeckll and mr Hyde and is PMDD combined with issues relating to growing up with an alcoholic father. I know what it is, but it doesn't change the fact she doesn't think she even has a problem.

It's now reached the point that I have said firmly I do not accept verbal, emotional or physical abuse from her anymore. That it's time she sorts this out in her life. The response, more verbal and emotional assaults.

I'm now making plans to move get to safety. It is hard being a man being abused by his wife. No support from anyone. I feel all alone and can't even tell my parents who are aging.
 
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The other thing is she's a professional victim. What she often does is identitive projection.

Here's two things that clearly explain what I am experiencing with her

shrink4men.wordpress.com/2009/01/30/10-signs-your-girlfriend-or-wife-is-an-emotional-bully/

shrink4men.wordpress.com/2009/01/27/is-your-girlfriend-or-wife-a-professional-victim/
 
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I'm sorry that you're dealing with such a difficult situation. It's so hard when a person can't even recognize their own problem, much less deal with it.

I'm curious as to what her response is when you point out her vastly different behaviors during her time of the month? Does she literally NOT see that she yells and screams and abuses you? Or does she play it off or rationalize it somehow?
 
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If she knows that she has a medical condition and chooses not to get help for it, then imo, she likely enjoys it - like you posted that link about the victim....she likely enjoys having a condition so she can blame it for her lousy treatment of you. Here's a question. Does she treat everyone poorly when she is going through it, or is it just you? How does she cope at work during those days?

Imo, this is likely something that could be resolved with some pretty strong boundaries. The longer you let her play the victim and the longer you let her get away with her abuse during her time, the more difficult it will be to challenge them.

If I were in your shoes, I might say something like "you can decide whether you want to take your meds or not, but if you choose not to, I choose not to live with you while you are a risk to me and to our property/belongings, so you need to find somewhere else to stay when you have your PMDD."

I will tell you that my aunt had PMDD, and although she was intensely irritable during her times, she never once abused anyone or laid a finger on them. She had self control during her times, and knew her limits - when she reached her limits, she would withdraw to her bedroom for a day or two. Your wife needs to learn self control during her times. I don't care how emotionally unstable she gets during that time, it is absolutely no excuse for acting out.
 
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Sorry about your evident difficulties.

You said you love your wife when she is behaving nicely.

You need to seek the grace of God to love your wife always. Hosea provides a good example in Scripture.

I wish you every success in helping her find the medical treatment that she needs.
 
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Inkachu said:
I'm sorry that you're dealing with such a difficult situation. It's so hard when a person can't even recognize their own problem, much less deal with it. I'm curious as to what her response is when you point out her vastly different behaviors during her time of the month? Does she literally NOT see that she yells and screams and abuses you? Or does she play it off or rationalize it somehow?

She blames me for her behavior during those times. She then launches into verbal assaults attacking my character, my relationships, my relationship with God, anything goes when it happens. She has only once ever apologized in the 7 years I've known her for anything she has done. She'll do everything on the planet to avoid taking responsibility for her behavior, and she won't even acknowledge it.
 
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I just had a small victory tonight.

I've really been coming back to my first love with God and decided no matter what I'm going to be true to my relationship with God and pursue the things God has called me to. Anyway I'm noticing the old me is coming back, the me that existed before all of the drama came into my life. Finally I'm breathing again.

This evening my wife was kinda hogging the kitchen (I've just become diabetic so eating healthy meals at regular times is very important), cooking in there for about 2 hours with no end in sight.

I went to check out if I could soon use the kitchen but didn't want to get into another confrontation. She was basically done but the extractor fan above the stove was still on so I went to turn it off. Partly due to the oil from all the Filipino cooking (hey I'm not complaining) my wife does, it slipped out of my hand and closed rather noisily. Which gave her a little fright.

A few minutes later she came out and started laying in to me. I said I wasn't going to fight with her and tried to explain what happened. She wouldn't let me speak and was so intent on finding another reason to be angry and attack me. I called her out on that and after more terse words she withdrew to the bedroom.

A minute or so later she comes out more calm and actually accepts what I said but then is wanting to justify her behavior. Again I reiterate I'm not fighting with her any longer, those days are over. I also explained me setting boundaries is not abuse, and explained how I had watched all the video of our conflicts and noticed I did everything in my power to deescalate them. She would keep verbally assaulting me deliberately trying to break me so she could turn around and play the victim.

She appeared to listen but then decided it was her turn and started trying to do the blame game again. I called her out on it and said I won't be baited into conflict where she can the. Turn it around and accuse me of being the aggressor.

Soon after, when she appeared to understand I wouldn't accept the Bologna anymore and called her on it, she backed down and walked off in a huff to the bedroom.

Finally for the first time I can remember I feel good about myself and me responses. I've been listening to praise and worship music all day which I feel has strengthened my heart. I gotta keep this pressing in to God up my whole life from this day forward. I'm comforted by psalms 18:2, the lord is my rock etc etc etc

In all this I was calm and composed. I also knew my phone was still recording the whole time. I will review what was said again tomorrow when I've had some sleep.
 
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I can't tell if you're serious or mocking me. If your mocking me I have photos of the bruises, smashed glass, and the police DVPO that was issued to her.

I thought you wanted someone to say that. A sane person with a healthy self image would take measures to protect themselves after the first couple times. They would leave. If you were a woman talking about this the ladies here would be calling you a fool for staying with the abuser.

Since you seem unwilling to move I'll offer you sympathy until she kills you.

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If your son or daughter told you, 'Daddy, my spouse... (your situation)', what advice would you offer them?
 
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