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Dealing with a spouse who won't listen?

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So you are right and clear and everyone else in the world is wrong and confused? I highly doubt that.

Understanding someone has nothing to do with being right or wrong, and thank you for proving my point. Nowhere did I ever say I was right and everyone else was wrong.

Linguists say that 55% of communication is body language, 38% is the tone of voice, and 7% is the actual words spoken.

Perhaps this is a contributing factor of my problem. My brain only understands the words spoken. Body language and tone of voice barely registers with me, and my main communication method is the words spoken, yet everyone else focuses on my body language and tone of voice instead of what should be focused on: the words. Maybe the shrinks were right when they told me I had Asperger's back in middle school.

Also, please lose the language. It's rude and offensive.

And being told my head is up in my "nether regions" and that I have a "caveman" brain isn't rude or offensive?

Have you ever considered counseling? I seriously think you could benefit from it.

Counseling did practically nothing for me. They did do a better job of trying to understand me and my situation than you guys are doing, but in the end they couldn't.

At this point I'm leaving this thread and will consider counseling again. If anything, they were more Christian and Godlike than many who posted here.
 
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Perhaps this is a contributing factor of my problem. My brain only understands the words spoken. Body language and tone of voice barely registers with me, and my main communication method is the words spoken, yet everyone else focuses on my body language and tone of voice instead of what should be focused on: the words. Maybe the shrinks were right when they told me I had Asperger's back in middle school.

You have Asperger's? So? You can LEARN to notice body language and tone of voice. I have Asperger's. Some of my kids are on the spectrum too. We all have learned to notice things we wouldn't have w/o help.

It seems you're looking for sympathy. You won't get it here. You will get straight talk. You say you communicate with words. Well, when someone tells you straight up how it is, you get all defensive and retreat into "poor pitiful me".

So...once again...with counseling and yes, medications for the accompanying ADHD, you can LEARN to deal with the rest of the world. You can LEARN now to live in the mainstream. You just have to be willing to put forth the effort to do so. I've explained it to NT's like this. An NT can go to a party, fit in, have fun and think nothing of it. For someone with AS, that same party is like swimming underwater in molasses. It's exhausting, it's hard, it's not fun. However, you need to lose the typical AS attitude of feeling so superior and righteous compared to the poor NTs who don't see things the way you do and realize that YOUR differences are not all that different from the NTs differences.
 
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Men navigate through our relationships in a cockpit with a single idiot light, and when it blinks red we tap it to make sure it's not just faulty. If the light doesn't go out, we begin to wonder if it means something.

I realize this is off topic.....but, I have brothers that have proven this to be untrue before my eyes. I even think you (RD) have shown me, through your posts, that this isn't true of men in general (you have much more relational "sense" or gauges than one single "idiot" light).

I hate hearing men put themselves (and others) down like that. That's all.
 
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You have Asperger's? So? You can LEARN to notice body language and tone of voice. I have Asperger's. Some of my kids are on the spectrum too. We all have learned to notice things we wouldn't have w/o help.

25 years of trying, plus a book on body language, and the only three things I learned were about foot position, folded arms, and pupil dilation.

I do not have ADHD, and I refuse medication. For one, it makes life worse. It also is a stigma that will prevent me from doing the one thing I enjoy doing in life. And I'm already on enough pills as it is for ulcerative colitis that I just can't take any more.
 
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25 years of trying, plus a book on body language, and the only three things I learned were about foot position, folded arms, and pupil dilation.

I do not have ADHD, and I refuse medication. For one, it makes life worse. It also is a stigma that will prevent me from doing the one thing I enjoy doing in life. And I'm already on enough pills as it is for ulcerative colitis that I just can't take any more.

Then feel free to sit in a corner and suck your thumb. A book will not help you. A therapist that specializes in AS will. But, you have to make the effort. If you choose to not make that effort, then fine. But don't come here or anywhere else and pull the "woe is me" card. You have to change YOU before you can even DREAM of being an agent of change for your wife. Until then, status quo.
 
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No. First time here. Unless I posted something similar in my sleep.

I found the thread that I was recalling. So many details are similar:

http://www.christianforums.com/t7679254/

We met at a Korean church (she's Korean, I'm American), and I'm active in the English side of this Korean Church.

To make things worse, she won't listen to me.

She's a night-owl. I'm not. I need sleep. Ever since she got an iPhone she stays up at night in the bed on Facebook, some Korean social networking site, or watching Korean dramas, and the light from her phone disturbs my sleep. I've told her over and over and she won't stop.

I'm an asocial person, I like to spend time alone. She is an extremely social person (as most Koreans are)

since I have a touch of Asperger's Syndrome.
 
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OP.....did you used to post under another username? Your OP seems very familiar to me.

I was thinking the same thing. Especially about the wife watching Korean soaps on her iPhone and it keeping hubby up all night, the introvert/extrovert thing... sounds too familiar...
 
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Although it appears this OP is gone and may not come back, I just want address this.
And Godly way of handling things? No one has yet pointed out a single scriptural reference in this topic.
Really? Then you have not read with comprehension:
From post 18
And you as the husband are answerable to God for setting a loving, caring, accepting, safe, and self-sacrificial tone in your home and in your marriage. (Eph. 5) .
From post 22
Husbands and wives are both answerable to God. But I believe that just as Jesus answers to God for our sin and sets a loving and peaceful and joyful tone for the Bride, a husband is also responsible for his wife. And just as the church Bride responds in love, respect, and accepting that peaceful, joyful, loving tone, influencing her tone back to him as well as to others. (also ref to Eph 5) .
From post 25
In the Bible, we see a few places where a man is told to be satisfied with the wife of his youth, and may her "breasts satisfy you always" and that sort of thing….kind of like Job, who made a "covenant with his eyes" to never look lustfully at another woman. .
From post 35
The Bible tells us that we do have the power to change - it tells us that we need to transform our hearts and minds to the likeness of Christ Jesus. It even tells us how - by taking every thought captive and making it obedient to Christ. It tells us to think of things that are lovely, right, pure, praiseworthy, etc, and you are not doing these things. .
From post 39
and it is all about becoming a more godly husband by learning to love your wife the way Jesus loves the church. Remember, he loved us while we were yet sinners. He loved us selflessly.
All of these are only from mine, let alone what godly advice you got from others here.

Especially when they've been put down since the time they were 5 effing years old and have lived an entire existence being defensive.
In that case, individual counselling would be beneficial, to help you deal with your childhood wounds. Seek healing for yourself first. The marriage can only be as healthy as the people in it. The same goes for counselling, too, though. It will only work as far as you are willing to do some soul searching and change the way you are.

I read through the other thread that was posted by MKGal, and there are certainly a lot of similarities. That poster was also given a lot of good advice and different ways to handle things. If you are the same person, it seems that you are simply unhappy with your life (which you admitted) and are looking for ways to adapt others around you in order to make you happy. But that will never succeed. Happiness comes from within. If you want to become a happier person, here are some things you can do (this comes from actual research, and is peer-reviewed):
Optimistic
Savor life
Spiritual
Have goals
Helpful
Have good social support
Gratitude

Some interesting facts about happiness:

50% of our happiness comes from genetics
10% of our happiness comes from circumstances
40% of our happiness is something we can control!


Since only 10% of happiness comes from circumstances, it would be totally useless to change yours. Focus on the part that you can control – the seven qualities I listed above are things you can control.
 
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This thread is making me ill.

Same here.

Get counseling. Immediately. Urgently. It's already WAY overdue.

FWIW this sounds like two young, selfish children got married and now don't want to learn to grow up and act married.

It's going to take a lot more than complaining on the internet to fix this relationship. You need to bring in a professional, objective, third party IMO. And fast.
 
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Same here.

Get counseling. Immediately. Urgently. It's already WAY overdue.

FWIW this sounds like two young, selfish children got married and now don't want to learn to grow up and act married.

It's going to take a lot more than complaining on the internet to fix this relationship. You need to bring in a professional, objective, third party IMO. And fast.
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