David's Exposé of DNA

Drotar · May 2, 2004

Wait, wait, I figured out how to make a rebuttal:

The "ray begins with x" is biochemically and metaphysically parallel to "u", which popped out of the sun during the first phase of the l'ARN Vital Force transformation.

Because of this, DNA DOES INDEED exist, since "u" is an integer multiplied by a negative even number which explains why stem cells mutate when overdosed by sonic hedgehog as first theorized in the Age of Reason (Descartes). This is why Dr. Pepper is more carbonated than Pepsi.

Mistermystery · May 2, 2004

MuAndNu said:
Uh, did I promise such an exposé?

No but I like the word.. a lot.

tulc · May 2, 2004

Wow! 102 posts and no evidence yet! This should be turned into a hangout thread.
tulc(misses the newsstand)

David Waffen · May 2, 2004

VITAL FORCE vs Carbon Chemistry, read it!

Drotar · May 2, 2004

Is this a publication or do you have a link?

David Waffen · May 2, 2004

It's my post!

Drotar · May 2, 2004

BTW, I'm not a liberal- I'm a moderate.

Could you please define exactly what a conservative and a liberal is? In a political sense. Also, can you define what a Republican is and a Democrat also.

I would prefer that you did not consult a dictionary or any other source. I want to know how you think they're technically defined.

I've heard that liberals are people that want change while conservatives are traditionalists. Wrong. The difference between a liberal and conservative is impartial to moral belief systems.

Drotar · May 2, 2004

I did not understand the majority of your post- especially the latter three quarters. It didn't make much sense. I don't think anyone else did either.

What is the "vital force"?

Could you please elaborate?

Could you make another post?

Dark_Adonis · May 2, 2004

David Waffen said:
As all intelligent scientists know, so called "X-rays" are part of the overall Vital Force of the Universe. Obviously these forces must exist, otherwise we would not be able to use them to live and the case of "X-rays", measure them passing through substances.

Vital Force of the Universe.... Vital Force of the Universe.... What the heck is the vital force of the universe? Some metaphysical concept? Perhaps we could elaborate on this just a tad bit, perhaps you could expatiate........

David Waffen said:
The problem with science is that a few hundreds years ago people reached the "Age of Reason" (Paine) - where they attempted to lie to the masses in order to convince people that man can understand the mysteries of the Vital Force for their own perverse reasons. Suddenly mankind evolved from animals, the Earth popped out of the Sun - which was part of the "Big Bang" which they say started from virtual particles and a bunch of other nonsense.

What do you mean by this, do you mean that suddenly the idea popped up? Who is this 'they'? What is this "other nonsense"? As well are you positive on your claim that the Earth popped out of the Sun? I seem to recall that solar systems were originally spinning gas clouds that through gravity clumped together to create planets....
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David Waffen said:
The Vital Force can not be understood, only observed. There is no 'atom' just different natures and ranges of the Vital Force.

Hermann Kolbe of the University of Leipzig, one of the leading organic chemists of 1877 called the idea of understanding the bonding nature of "carbon" a "document crammed to the hilt with the outpourings of a childish fantasy . . . . This Dr. J. H. van Hoff, employed by the Veterinary College at Utrecht, has, so it seems, no taste for accurate chemical research. He finds it more convenient to mount his Pegasus (evidently taken from the stables of the Veterinary College) and to announce how, on his bold flight to Mount Parnassus, he saw the atoms arranged in space"

So who are you going to believe, a 22-year with a childish fantasy or the leading organic chemists? The world took his lie and had a fun time spinning it. They knew if they could convince the world of this nonsense, they could attack the Vital Force and make themselves greater than they were. It should be pointed out that this child got a Nobel Prize as a reward for his lie - no motivation for it, of course.
Nowadays it is used to make up stuff like DNA, etc.

I think that this is quite interesting reasoning... You make a claim that there is no such thing as DNA because some one existing around that time made the claim that it doesn't exist. Let's use this reasoning to its extremes:
Einstein: "God doesn't play dice"
Obviously we can conclude that anything related to probability in nature is false...

Now let's see if there is experimental evidence for the existence of DNA, well there is the observation that we have mapped the genome of several species, but this I suppose that seeing isn't believing????????

Drotar · May 2, 2004

That's the way I remember it.

But the earth popping out of the sun... we're going to need a source from a big bang theorist on that one David.

the_gloaming · May 2, 2004

Quote:
Originally Posted by: Data

This guy is a troll - he's posting just to make us angry.

*clicks ignore*

=meI think so too, although it has to be said that he's not even doing a good job at that. Someone like orange was much, much better at provoking angry responses.

I'm thinking David took this "not as good as orange" comment to heart. Still not quite there, sorry. Try attacking gravity and the laws of thermodynamics. Maybe say they don't exist ? Just a few tips.

tulc · May 2, 2004

Maybe this will help explain "VITAL FORCE":
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudoscience[/url]
tulc(offering some evidence that anyone can understand)

MuAndNu · May 2, 2004

Mistermystery said:
No but I like the word.. a lot.

exposé

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Hey, yeah!

Robf · May 2, 2004

Try this explanation of the Vital Force.

David - is this what you are referring to? Please note that this article is written by a supporter of the "theory", and even he says that "vitalism declined in the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries with the ascendancy of scientific thinking"

Are you really proposing that DNA doesn't exist because of a theory that was discarded by rational thinkers 400 years ago? And how on earth does this relate to X-rays?

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"Vitalism has essentially been the foundation of medical thinking since the classical times of Hippocrates and Galen. In Western medicine, vitalism declined in the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries with the ascendancy of scientific thinking, though today it is still a central tenet of naturopathic philosophy.

The premise of vitalism considers the human body and psyche as being animated by the vital force, which starts flowing at the moment of conception and which ceases with the death of the body. The flow of vital energy through the body nourishes, heals, develops and sustains the body. This flow of vital force is synonymous with the emotional experience of the person, whereby each individual emotion is seen as a particular wave form within the flow. For example, love creates a smooth, comforting, nourishing and harmonizing flow, in contrast to anger, which generates a spiky, intense, spasmodic and disruptive flow. Every emotion has thereby a direct effect on the body's physiological function."

(astrologycom.com/vitalism.html)

danaman5 · May 2, 2004

You know, I'm pretty sure we have carbon bonding nailed down now. I mean, I learned about it in my chemistry class this year. Perhaps a scientist from 1877 didn't understand it, but come on, David, that was 125 years ago!

Dark_Adonis · May 2, 2004

The Pixie of knowledge is dead : (

David Waffen · May 2, 2004

danaman5 said:
You know, I'm pretty sure we have carbon bonding nailed down now.

I studied Greek Mythology in school, doesn't mean it is true.

Data · May 2, 2004

David Waffen said:
I studied Greek Mythology in school, doesn't mean it is true.

Oh shut up.

David is obviously a lying troll, can we ignore him now?

*back to ignore list*

MartinM · May 2, 2004

Dark_Adonis said:
\ o /
- B - <--- This is the pixie of knowledge
/ db \

So far he is puzzled

If rather well-endowed.

Dark_Adonis · May 2, 2004

MartinM said:
If rather well-endowed.

Those were supposed to be feet?

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