David

[bleechers]

Of the thousands of "contradictions" that have disappeared since I truly started to study the Bible 13 years ago, the following still alludes me:

David's place in his family:

1 Chronicles 2
14 Nethaneel the fourth, Raddai the fifth,
15 Ozem the sixth, David the seventh:
16 Whose sisters were Zeruiah, and Abigail. And the sons of Zeruiah; Abishai, and Joab, and Asahel, three.

I Samuel 16
10 Again, Jesse made seven of his sons to pass before Samuel. And Samuel said unto Jesse, The LORD hath not chosen these.
11 And Samuel said unto Jesse, Are here all thy children? And he said, There remaineth yet the youngest, and, behold, he keepeth the sheep. And Samuel said unto Jesse, Send and fetch him: for we will not sit down till he come hither.

Alright, Forum theologians get to work!

Any and all help/theories is/are appreciated.

 

[BT]

From: The Treasury of Scriptural Knowledge
1Ch 2:15
David. It appears from the parallel places of Samuel, that Jesse had eight sons, of whom David was the eighth and youngest; but one may have died before David came to the throne.

1Sa 16:10; 17:12-14

From: Jamieson-Fausset-Brown-Commentary
Ch 2:15
15. David the seventh--As it appears (1Sa 16:10; 17:12) that Jesse had eight sons, the presumption is from David being mentioned here as the seventh son of his father, that one of them had died at an early age, without leaving issue.


I'm going to still dig around and see if I can't find anything else (not that these are wrong. I just might be able to find some more...)

 

[bleechers]

Thanks for looking!

The two you noted sound reasonable except that 2 Chronicles was written after all of Jesse's sons had died. Since David was the youngest, the brother who may have died at a young age could not have been that young. He was at least older than David when Samuel visted Jesse.

So, if a geneological list of the sons of Jesse was written after they had all died, why exclude one who may have died at age 19 or so long after all the sons were dead?

The possible exception to my assumption is that the geneological records kept by the priests for the line of Judah may have been amended to reflect the death before the book was penned. Inasmuch as David is the only one in the line of Judah that would lead to Messiah, the blotting out of another son of Jesse may not have been relevant. Taking his name out would not make the list in error, merely pointed.

We see a similar thing in Jesus' geneology. Only the pertinent names in the light of prophecy are included, etc.

Thanks. Any additional thoughts are very welcome!

 

[BT]

Thanks for looking!

The two you noted sound reasonable except that 2 Chronicles was written after all of Jesse's sons had died. Since David was the youngest, the brother who may have died at a young age could not have been that young. He was at least older than David when Samuel visted Jesse.

So, if a geneological list of the sons of Jesse was written after they had all died, why exclude one who may have died at age 19 or so long after all the sons were dead?

The possible exception to my assumption is that the geneological records kept by the priests for the line of Judah may have been amended to reflect the death before the book was penned. Inasmuch as David is the only one in the line of Judah that would lead to Messiah, the blotting out of another son of Jesse may not have been relevant. Taking his name out would not make the list in error, merely pointed.

Good points. It may be that they didn't have his name or it could be something else. Mabey he died as a baby or something.. I have no idea, I'll do some more digging later when I get back to my books.

We see a similar thing in Jesus' geneology. Only the pertinent names in the light of prophecy are included, etc.

Thanks. Any additional thoughts are very welcome!

Do you mean the "Joseph" issue? Err rather the "Joseph's father" issue? I did a lot of research on this one and found some helpful information... unless you were talking about ommissions then I think you have it dead-on.

Anyway I'll get back to you if I find out anything else about Davids list.

 

[bleechers]

Do you mean the "Joseph" issue? Err rather the "Joseph's father" issue? I did a lot of research on this one and found some helpful information... unless you were talking about ommissions then I think you have it dead-on.

The omissions. I realize that the two geneologies (MT, LK) are two separate lines (Nathan/Mary; Solomom/Joseph)... if that's what you meant.

Anyway I'll get back to you if I find out anything else about Davids list.

Thanks much!

 

[GreenEyedLady]

This should have been the question of the week!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[BT]

This should have been the question of the week!!!!!!!!!!!