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The one who posts the SAME old Article interpretation with the Talmud says this.

The Pot calling the Kettle black, isn't it?
The same person who keeps posting unreliable sources without actual studies actually whines. How ironic!

Oh wait, he's posting facts! :D
 
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[SIZE=-1]The one who posts the SAME old Article interpretation with the Talmud says this.

The Pot calling the Kettle black, isn't it?[/SIZE]

Approximately 1500 years of actual, verifiable, historical evidence from the Talmud and the writings of the early church vs. the unsupported, unsubstantiated opinions of Andrea Nonnymuss at homosexuals-я-us.com® or one of its clones.
 
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It's a proven fact: If it doesn't agree it must be bias.

This is why I never use internet articles anymore. I tried this in an abortion thread. Every pro-life article I supplied was pushed off and called "unreliable and bias". But yet they went off posting theres and when I called them on the same thing they would say I was just using a cop-out.

Frankly, I think if people can't accept evidence at face value and read them fairly, not with their bias opinions, arguments would be a WHOLE lot better. On both sides. I'll admit I didn't really read and pro-choice articles much after the first few.
 
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It's a proven fact: If it doesn't agree it must be bias.

This is why I never use internet articles anymore. I tried this in an abortion thread. Every pro-life article I supplied was pushed off and called "unreliable and bias". But yet they went off posting theres and when I called them on the same thing they would say I was just using a cop-out.

Frankly, I think if people can't accept evidence at face value and read them fairly, not with their bias opinions, arguments would be a WHOLE lot better. On both sides. I'll admit I didn't really read and pro-choice articles much after the first few.

The fact is that everyone is baised. The problem with the homosexual issue is that they have 2000 years of Christian history against them and have only naturalistic speculations to justify their claim.
 
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[SIZE=-1]It's a proven fact: If it doesn't agree it must be bias.

This is why I never use internet articles anymore. I tried this in an abortion thread. Every pro-life article I supplied was pushed off and called "unreliable and bias". But yet they went off posting theres and when I called them on the same thing they would say I was just using a cop-out.

Frankly, I think if people can't accept evidence at face value and read them fairly, not with their bias opinions, arguments would be a WHOLE lot better. On both sides. I'll admit I didn't really read and pro-choice articles much after the first few.[/SIZE]

Its a proven fact: you do not know the difference between "evidence" and "opinion." Neither do many other posting their prohomosexual arguments here.

I assume you are a student, just for fun print out one of my posts where I cite the Talmud, or the ECF, and one of dave's posts copy/pasted from his homosexual website. Take both to one, or more, of your teachers and ask them which one has done legitimate, documented research and substantiated their argument, and which paper would get a failing grade in their class. Then ask them why. You might want to ask what is a primary source, and what is the signficance of such sources.
 
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Its a proven fact: you do not know the difference between "evidence" and "opinion." Neither do many other posting their prohomosexual arguments here.

I assume you are a student, just for fun print out one of my posts where I cite the Talmud, or the ECF, and one of dave's posts copy/pasted from his homosexual website. Take both to one, or more, of your teachers and ask them which one has done legitimate, documented research and substantiated their argument, and which paper would get a failing grade in their class. Then ask them why. You might want to ask what is a primary source, and what is the signficance of such sources.

Which teacher? I'm not about to take it to MORE human beings. Because if I take them both to a science teacher and a religious teacher, I'll of course get seperate answers. Even if I take it to an English teacher and a History teacher I'll get different opinions. This isn't about the best evidence. Unless you're God Der Alter, you have no evidence. I'll say it again, evidence, the Bible means nothing except for the words written in it, unless you read it with God in mind. If you think that God can control every single word through thousands of years, translations and so on, then why is it impossible for me to hear him calling me?

I've said this before, I don't need proof. I'm not here to give proof. I'm here to try to open some very closed doors and try to get people to start listening to God again. Not some words on paper. Maybe Christianity would stop being looked down upon and maybe more people would consider it if we stopped concentrating on "evidence" and started concentrating about the entire reason we live. Which is faith. No matter how much you think so, the Bible is not going to get your into heaven. Don't get me wrong, the Bible is a great book. And I support it all the way. But nothing that's not of God should be read literally. It has to be read through God's eyes. Hence why I try to introduce my friends to God before I introduce them to the Bible. It's easier to understand it if you know God first.

I'm almost finished. I just have one more thing to say:

Do not let people look down upon you because you are young, but set an example in what you teach, in the way you live, in your love, your faith and your purity. 1 Timothy 4:12.

This has been my life verse since I turned 13. Age is just a number. It has nothing to do with anything. You can't judge experience, purity, understanding or maturity on that number. It just represents how long you've been on Earth. Not how much you've learned. And any Christian who tries to use age as a way of judging should probably reread their Bible a couple of times.
 
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Which teacher? I'm not about to take it to MORE human beings. Because if I take them both to a science teacher and a religious teacher, I'll of course get seperate answers. Even if I take it to an English teacher and a History teacher I'll get different opinions. This isn't about the best evidence. Unless you're God Der Alter, you have no evidence. I'll say it again, evidence, the Bible means nothing except for the words written in it, unless you read it with God in mind. If you think that God can control every single word through thousands of years, translations and so on, then why is it impossible for me to hear him calling me?

I've said this before, I don't need proof. I'm not here to give proof. I'm here to try to open some very closed doors and try to get people to start listening to God again. Not some words on paper. Maybe Christianity would stop being looked down upon and maybe more people would consider it if we stopped concentrating on "evidence" and started concentrating about the entire reason we live. Which is faith. No matter how much you think so, the Bible is not going to get your into heaven. Don't get me wrong, the Bible is a great book. And I support it all the way. But nothing that's not of God should be read literally. It has to be read through God's eyes. Hence why I try to introduce my friends to God before I introduce them to the Bible. It's easier to understand it if you know God first.

I'm almost finished. I just have one more thing to say:

Do not let people look down upon you because you are young, but set an example in what you teach, in the way you live, in your love, your faith and your purity. 1 Timothy 4:12.

This has been my life verse since I turned 13. Age is just a number. It has nothing to do with anything. You can't judge experience, purity, understanding or maturity on that number. It just represents how long you've been on Earth. Not how much you've learned. And any Christian who tries to use age as a way of judging should probably reread their Bible a couple of times.
This is clearly wrong. Age reflects on your level education, your level to handle difficlt situations and also how developed your mind is. Does a baby have the same mind set than a 20 year old?
 
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This is clearly wrong. Age reflects on your level education, your level to handle difficlt situations and also how developed your mind is. Does a baby have the same mind set than a 20 year old?
There have been such prodigies born, but thats not the point and you know it. Certain kids learn faster than others as well as some kids learn slower. There are 12-year-olds that are far more mature than 40-year-olds as well as vice versa. Trying to give me useless examples is just trying to fight your way out of it, but it isn't going to work. We grow differently yes, but age is still a number. There are 15-year-olds who can read past the college level, and there are 26-year-olds who can't read at all. What's your point?
 
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There have been such prodigies born, but thats not the point and you know it. Certain kids learn faster than others as well as some kids learn slower. There are 12-year-olds that are far more mature than 40-year-olds as well as vice versa. Trying to give me useless examples is just trying to fight your way out of it, but it isn't going to work. We grow differently yes, but age is still a number. There are 15-year-olds who can read past the college level, and there are 26-year-olds who can't read at all. What's your point?
Yes, there is exceptions. But in a general base the case is generally consistant.
 
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Yes, there is exceptions. But in a general base the case is generally consistant.
You must've ignored that verse then, because it still doesn't matter.

Is this your example of picking and choosing so that no person is considered equal to you unless they're IDENTICAL to you NewGuy?
 
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It's a proven fact: If it doesn't agree it must be bias.

This is why I never use internet articles anymore. I tried this in an abortion thread. Every pro-life article I supplied was pushed off and called "unreliable and bias". But yet they went off posting theres and when I called them on the same thing they would say I was just using a cop-out.

Frankly, I think if people can't accept evidence at face value and read them fairly, not with their bias opinions, arguments would be a WHOLE lot better. On both sides. I'll admit I didn't really read and pro-choice articles much after the first few.

I literally don't take people for their word when they don't take God's word literally. But I will respect their opinions. God bless.

- Rob
 
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[SIZE=-1]Which teacher? I'm not about to take it to MORE human beings. Because if I take them both to a science teacher and a religious teacher, I'll of course get seperate answers. Even if I take it to an English teacher and a History teacher I'll get different opinions.[/SIZE]

It doesn't matter which teacher you take it to, any teacher will instantly know whether it is proper documented research or copy/pasted hearsay.

[SIZE=-1]This isn't about the best evidence. Unless you're God Der Alter, you have no evidence. I'll say it again, evidence, the Bible means nothing except for the words written in it, unless you read it with God in mind. If you think that God can control every single word through thousands of years, translations and so on, then why is it impossible for me to hear him calling me?[/SIZE]

It is possible for people to hear God but God cannot, will not, contradict his revealed word and you cannot know God's will without knowing his words.

[SIZE=-1]I've said this before, I don't need proof. I'm not here to give proof. I'm here to try to open some very closed doors and try to get people to start listening to God again. Not some words on paper. Maybe Christianity would stop being looked down upon and maybe more people would consider it if we stopped concentrating on "evidence" and started concentrating about the entire reason we live. Which is faith. No matter how much you think so, the Bible is not going to get your into heaven. Don't get me wrong, the Bible is a great book. And I support it all the way. But nothing that's not of God should be read literally. It has to be read through God's eyes. Hence why I try to introduce my friends to God before I introduce them to the Bible. It's easier to understand it if you know God first.[/SIZE]

Virtually the same words spoken by every false teacher who ever came along, Jim Jones, David Koresh, Charles Russell (JW), Joseph Smith (LDS), etc.

Here is a passage of scripture in the original language give me your interpretation of this based on nothing but your own esoteric revelation from God, no evidence, no scholars just read it through God's eyes.

[SIZE=+1]μηδεις σου της νεοτητος καταφρονειτω αλλα τυπος γινου των πιστων εν λογω εν αναστροφη εν αγαπη εν πνευματι εν πιστει εν αγνεια[/SIZE]
 
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You must've ignored that verse then, because it still doesn't matter.

Is this your example of picking and choosing so that no person is considered equal to you unless they're IDENTICAL to you NewGuy?

Nah, this is an example of you not knowing what you're talking about. (again)
 
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