Dating the Crucifixion, Death, and Resurrection of Jesus Christ

[Hewillcome2040]

I have determined the date of the Crucifixion was 25 April, 31 AD around 6pm.

When was the Crucifixion, Death, and Resurrection of Jesus Christ?

I welcome any constructive criticism.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

I welcome any constructive criticism.

Heads up - there's about 4 billion people who all disagree with each other about this.
Some use Scripture, some use history, some use tradition, all to "prove" they are right.

How many can be right though ?

As Jesus Says: "Few"

So, in a way, it's an uphill battle all the time, every day, no matter who is right.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

It will be especially difficult since it appears in the link the page/information is self-contradictory. (some of the reasoning it uses, some of the statements made, are contradicted by other statements made on the same page by the same author apparently). IF this is the case, it is not fixable, of course.

Then, there is much more that others will notice and argue with, concerning 3 days and 3 nights , but that won't actually matter nor make a difference if they don't have a better time-reference. (most don't).

So, shall we open up the page and analyze it far enough to see if there's a chance it could be helpful ?

 

[Hewillcome2040]

It will be especially difficult since it appears in the link the page/information is self-contradictory. (some of the reasoning it uses, some of the statements made, are contradicted by other statements made on the same page by the same author apparently). IF this is the case, it is not fixable, of course.

Then, there is much more that others will notice and argue with, concerning 3 days and 3 nights , but that won't actually matter nor make a difference if they don't have a better time-reference. (most don't).

So, shall we open up the page and analyze it far enough to see if there's a chance it could be helpful ?

Well if someone feels it is incorrect, then submit the argument is what I say. Let's see the counter arguments and how much weight they carry. I feel pretty good about my findings.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

last things first (not necessarily one of the self-contradicting statements in the linked webpage of the op) This one fact invalidates the premise(s) and conclusion of the op, if this is accurate (below).

excerpt: "For nearly fifty years, major branches of God’s church have taught that Jesus wascrucified on Wednesday, April 25, 31 AD. However, the Hebrew Calendar places Nisan14 of 31 AD on Monday, March 26. This date is historically accurate and has never been questioned by the Jews."

 

[Hewillcome2040]

last things first (not necessarily one of the self-contradicting statements in the linked webpage of the op) This one fact invalidates the premise(s) and conclusion of the op, if this is accurate (below).

excerpt: "For nearly fifty years, major branches of God’s church have taught that Jesus wascrucified on Wednesday, April 25, 31 AD. However, the Hebrew Calendar places Nisan14 of 31 AD on Monday, March 26. This date is historically accurate and has never been questioned by the Jews."

Sure it has been questioned. It is being questioned right now. I have proof that it was April 25 on a Wednesday and that day would be Nisan 14.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

On the other site you posted dates on, (just spent about an hour reading through your threads there),
at least there you asked others to ignore your posts/dates/
after you realized the difficulty you had with
all the variables (you listed several) unknown or unable to verify.
I don't think it would be helpful to repeat 5 or 10 or more pages here. As far as I can tell, no one would benefit.
(even though some of your information was interesting and possibly could stir some to investigate the Scripture, which most ignore; so that would be good,
but not this topic/thread here).

Your attempts to set dates for when adam sinned, and when the last day is, and other dates,
using as you noted what are known unapproved sources to try to set dates and other information, (misleading ones),
means
that accurate and good and unchanging results
cannot be obtained.

In computer programming, I think it was called gigo.
When you started with information in error,
you could not come to conclusions that are right.

Others are certainly welcome to look into those other threads and posts if they like.... but it is awkward saying so, because of the other posters there who willingly and maybe knowingly were leading away from Scripture,
though a couple , including you, appeared to be trying to keep things within Scriptural bounds,
except as noted the outside sources you relied on.

 

[Hewillcome2040]

On the other site you posted dates on, (just spent about an hour reading through your threads there),
at least there you asked others to ignore your posts/dates/
after you realized the difficulty you had with
all the variables (you listed several) unknown or unable to verify.
I don't think it would be helpful to repeat 5 or 10 or more pages here. As far as I can tell, no one would benefit.
(even though some of your information was interesting and possibly could stir some to investigate the Scripture, which most ignore; so that would be good,
but not this topic/thread here).

Your attempts to set dates for when adam sinned, and when the last day is, and other dates,
using as you noted what are known unapproved sources to try to set dates and other information, (misleading ones),
means
that accurate and good and unchanging results
cannot be obtained.

In computer programming, I think it was called gigo.
When you started with information in error,
you could not come to conclusions that are right.

Others are certainly welcome to look into those other threads and posts if they like.... but it is awkward saying so, because of the other posters there who willingly and maybe knowingly were leading away from Scripture,
though a couple , including you, appeared to be trying to keep things within Scriptural bounds,
except as noted the outside sources you relied on.

I don't know what your referring to. You're just saying something is wrong with my data but not explaining where and what is wrong or why it's wrong. I work on facts and data. Please tell me where I'm wrong and why.
I don't know what your referring to. You just saying something is wrong with my data but not explaining where and what is wrong or why it's wrong. So who is going to believe what your saying?

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Having noted the heresy of universal salvation ,
besides the errors (if yours, perhaps they're not?) on the city website with the same information you posted here on this one,
it is not apparently edifying nor helpful to continue.

 

[Hewillcome2040]

Having noted the heresy of universal salvation ,
besides the errors (if yours, perhaps they're not?) on the city website with the same information you posted here on this one,
it is not apparently edifying nor helpful to continue.

There is no sense in trying to debate me if you don't bring seriousness to the table. I don't participate in vain discussion.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

There is no sense in trying to debate me if you don't bring seriousness to the table. I don't participate in vain discussion.

From all your posts, that is apparently all you participate in.
I at first hoped for better,
but the information already posted by you in this forum and in the St.Louis forum (if that is you) shows it is all in vain.

 

[Hewillcome2040]

From all your posts, that is apparently all you participate in.
I at first hoped for better,
but the information already posted by you in this forum and in the St.Louis forum (if that is you) shows it is all in vain.

The information I have provided here has received not one piece of constructive criticism. I'm not sure which other forum your referring to since I'm on several.

 

[Ron Gurley]

What difference does it make ???

 

[Joelthe vicious]

How about the Scriptures only to tell us?

In Bethany : Lazarus raised
Jn11:17-53
Away to rural town of Ephraim
Jn11:54-57 It was nearly passover
Back to Bethany and Jerusalem
Sabbath [9th day of First Month]
Jn12:1-11 “six days before the Feast Days of passover”

The Last Week
Palm Sunday : Entry into Jerusalem
5 days before Abib 15 the first of the seven days of the Feast of UB is Abib 10
“Tenth day of the First Month”
Ex12:3 Ez40:1
Jn12:12-19 “the next morning”
= Mk11:1-11 Bethany; into Jerusalem; into temple; late to Bethany
= Mt21:1-11 Betphage; into Jerusalem
= Lk19:28-44 Betphage and Bethany; into Jerusalem

 

[Joelthe vicious]

Last Week: Monday : 4 days before Abib 15 is Abib 11
Mk11:12-14 “the morning ... from Bethany ... fig tree”
= Mt21:18,19 “to the city ... fig tree”
// Lk21:29-33 “Look at the fig tree!"
Mk11:15-17 “into the temple ... cast out them that sold”
= Mt21:12-14 “into the temple ...cast out all them that sold”
= Lk19:45,46 “went into the temple ... cast out them that sold”
= Mt21:15-17 “children crying in the temple”
= Jn12:20-26 “there were certain Greeks among them that came up”
Mk11:18 “sought how they might destroy him”
= Lk19:47,48 “the scribes...sought to destroy him”
Mk11:19 “when even was come, he went out of the city”
= Mt21:17 “went out of the city”

 

[Joelthe vicious]

Correction...

= Mt21:17 “went out of the city and lodged”

 

[Joelthe vicious]

Last Week: Tuesday : 3 days before (Friday) Abib 15 is Abib 12
PREACHING
Mk11:20,21 “in the morning, as they passed by, they saw the fig tree dried up”
Mt 21:20 “when the disciples saw ... the fig tree withered”
Mk11:22,23 “have faith ... whosoever shall say unto this mountain”
Mt21:21,22,45,46 “have faith ... ye shall say to this mountain”
Mk11:27,28 “in the temple ...By what authority doest thou these things?”
= Mt21:23-25 “into the temple ... By what authority doest thou these things?”
= Lk20:1-8 “on one of those days ... by what authority doest thou these things?”
Mk12:35-37 “in the temple ... whence is he then his (David's) son?”
= Mt22:23;41-46 “The same day ... how is he his (David's) son?”
= Mt24:1-3 “departed from the temple ... show him the buildings of the temple”
= Mt26:1-2 “after two days is passover and the Son of man is betrayed to be crucified”
= Jn12:27-36 “Now is my soul troubled...for this cause came I unto this hour.”
= Lk21:34-38 “It was one of those days he was teaching in the temple and nights he slept in the mountain.”

 

[Joelthe vicious]

Last Week: Wednesday : 2 days before (Friday) Abib 15, is Abib 13
Mk14:1,2 “After two days was the feast of the passover and of unleavened bread”
“sought how how they might take him...Not on the feast”
= Mt26:3-5 “consulted that they might take Jesus...Not on the feast day”
= Lk22:1,2 “feast of unleavened bread drew nigh...sought how they they might kill him”
Mk14:3-9 “in the house of Simon the leper...ointment poured on his head”
= Mt26:6-13 “house of Simon...ointment, and poured it on his head”
Mk14:10,11 “Judas went unto the chief priests to betray him unto them”
= Mt26:14-16 “went to the chief priests...they covenanted for thirty pieces of silver”
= Lk22:3-6 “communed how he might betray him unto them...they covenanted to give him money”
= Jn12:37-50 “He that rejecteth me...receiveth not my words” (82)

 

[Joelthe vicious]

Last Week : “THREE DAYS”

Thursday : Abib 14 was 1 day “before” (Friday) Abib 15
Ex12:15a “the head/first first day ye shall remove leaven”
Mk14:12—15:41 “the first day without leaven / leaven being removed when they KILLED the passover”
= 2Chronicles 35:4,6,10,14 “prepare passover … kill passover”
= Lv23:22,10 “when you CUT the corners ... LIFT UP the first sheaf”
= Jn13:1—19:30 “before the Feast ... his Hour ... it was Night”
= Lk22:7—23:49 “when they had to kill the passover”
= Mk14:2 “not on the Feast (days)”
= Mt26:5 “not on the Feast (days)”
= Jn19:14-30 “The Preparation of the Passover”
= Mt26:17—27:56 “the first day without leaven / leaven being removed”
Mk14:12b “that we may prepare preparation for passover”
= Jn12:32,34; 8:28 “the Son of Man LIFTED UP”
= 1Cor11:23 "the Night wherein the Lord was betrayed"
= Jn16:32 “the hour is now ye every one shall be scattered”

 

[Ron Gurley]

Precise historical dating: what difference does it make ??