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This not meant to challenge the norms for dating scripture, just some functional insight into how the manuscripts came into being.
There is no doubt that hundreds of years of oral history within Genesis would be recorded at some given time.

The first literate hebrew mentioned is Joseph, which meant that not only did he now how to write cuneiform, as governor he had to have some measure of communication between egypt and the inhabitants under their control reaching to the Hittite empire north of palestine. This implies that a rudimentary knowledge of the common alphabet used by the inhabitants of that region would have been a practical necessity.

The existance of hebraic writing in a mine located in the Sinai, although impossible to date, does imply that possibility of literacy reaching to the time of Joseph and possibly beyond the time of the exodus.

Moses, as prince of Egypt was literate in cuneiform and possibly semitic script. The situation described at Shiloh would stress the need for written details in order to have built the sanctuary and to perform the necessary rites.

As of the death of Josua, only small narratives, with the exception of stories like that of Gideon are present in scripture, the reason being that every tribe was isolated by distance, forests, terrain, and by being few in number, the oral traditions of the period whould have taken time to be recorded.

Samuel by contrast is the start of a veritable explosion of detailed information that had to have been recorded.
The start of the kingdom introduced the start of written communication between empires, the introduction of chronicles and the need for scripture in order to build the temple.

Jeremiah describes the real-time recording of prophecy. The idea of a lengthy lapse between most events and the recording of these events is not paralelled in the common era. Most scripture within the common era was written within generations of the events and coresspondence.

Daniel is a good example of scripture that took time to record, adopt and distribute. There is a good possibility that the events associated with Daniel, Ezekiel, Jeremiah and Esther were known within their community.

Daniel's situation is unique, his early life was known to the community and his perspective is that of a highly placed administrator with an ability to interpret dreams.
Daniel's perspective later in life is now that of a prophet.

The content of his revelations are radically different from the established body of prophecy. Only the fulfillment of his short-term revelations would validate and confirm his role as a prophet.

The content of Daniel's revelations in virtue of its radical content would have been a source of debate from its recording and would have disqualified its inclusion in the Tanahk hundreds of years later.

The description by Josephus of the arrival of Alexander the Great at Jerusalem is one possible indicator of its presence before its commonly accepted dating. The only disqualifying factor would be the credibility of Josephus and his sources.
Describing practical factors in the introduction of the writing of scriptures, while not conclusive, does open the door for more productive exploration of this issue.
 

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I think this type of analysis has already been used in discerning the timing of the scriptures.

You may be very interested to read the work of Adam Clarke.
His Commentary is available for free through e-sword
a free electronic Bible study tool.
Clarke gives a lot of detailed analysis of the parchments and writings in historical context.
 
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over the years i have come to the conclusion that dating (archaological dating that is) is very subjective. as it is with all scientific fields, a lot of determination is based upon assumptions...kathleen kenyon is guilty of this in her worl at jericho (according to james long, author of 'the riddle of the exodus')

to say that there is a concrete way we can know for sure would be lying as thisis the past weare talking about and no artifact is stamped with a 'made in____' tag nor did the ancients use actual dates to communicate when something happened.

because we know so little about the past, the nuzi and other libraries aside, it is hard to determine what actually took place and when.

christians need to remember that secular archaeologists and historians do not ascribe to the Biblical morality thus any theory that comes from them must be taken with a grain of salt and re-examined under a spiritual eye. sure they may have stumbled on the truth but a lot of times their conclusions take wide right turns into their pet theory and avoid confirming the Bible.
 
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over the years i have come to the conclusion that dating (archaological dating that is) is very subjective. as it is with all scientific fields, a lot of determination is based upon assumptions...kathleen kenyon is guilty of this in her worl at jericho (according to james long, author of 'the riddle of the exodus')

to say that there is a concrete way we can know for sure would be lying as thisis the past weare talking about and no artifact is stamped with a 'made in____' tag nor did the ancients use actual dates to communicate when something happened.

because we know so little about the past, the nuzi and other libraries aside, it is hard to determine what actually took place and when.

christians need to remember that secular archaeologists and historians do not ascribe to the Biblical morality thus any theory that comes from them must be taken with a grain of salt and re-examined under a spiritual eye. sure they may have stumbled on the truth but a lot of times their conclusions take wide right turns into their pet theory and avoid confirming the Bible.

You have said elsewhere that you are researching flaws in C-14 dating. How is that going?

BTW, archaeologists, whether secular or religious, who are professional in their approach do not avoid confirming the Bible or otherwise. They seek knowledge. Where the historical facts are in alignment, they will so say.
 
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Greetings in the Name of Jesus;

As a follower of Biblical Archaeology and as one of my hobbies; I would like to suggest any who like archaeology should check out, David M Rohl of " New chronology". and Immanuel Velikovsky of " Ages in Chaos" . both have extensive online information.
Now David Rohl has found convincing evidence of Hebrew related facts and concepts which change current chronology back in time which fits Almost exactly as bible stories are told and written. Evidence of letters of King saul to Pharoah. This chronology Almost perfectly fits the chronology of bible, but yes it contradicts archaeology beliefs of past which are today in conflict as to truth, across the archaeology spectrum. The Dig at Tel el dabba, Avaris, by Manfried Manfried; is a good example, where evidence of Hebrew slave and community were uncovered and believed to be the original egyptian tomb of Joseph. There is much here for the enthusiast of Archaeology. Forgive me for my excitement; for I am passionate about Gods truth in Archaeology; and these New findings and concepts are what we of faith in biblical truths of archaeology are now being Justified in facts in the field. Praise God,.


I pray no man is offended by my words. God bless Cf.
 
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