Date of the Resurrection

[SpiritPsalmist]

The actual date of the resurrection of Jesus was the Hebrew calender date, Nissan 18 (Passover begins at sundown on Nissan 15). Why do we not celebrate His resurrection on that date?

 

[JIMOH]

Some look at it the other way Q. They ask when was He crucified and buried.
Was He in the ground a full three days and three nights?
There are some very interesting views on these things.
I hope someone gives their ideas.

 

[SpiritPsalmist]

Some look at it the other way Q. They ask when was He crucified and buried.
Was He in the ground a full three days and three nights?
There are some very interesting views on these things.
I hope someone gives their ideas.

What other way? The last supper was a Passover Seder...traditionally eaten on the first night of Passover, which began at sunset (Hebrew days go from sunset to sunset. Not midnight to midnight).

Jesus was crucified the same day then was buried and arose three days later. Those questions do not change the date. Nor should they cause us to continue to choose to remember and celebrate that event which happened on an entirely different date than the date it's being celebrated on. The date many churches celebrate on actually coincides with a pagan celebration of which many even use the same pagan name (Easter) and use bunny's, chicks, and eggs as part of their celebration to apply to the resurrection when the two have absolutely nothing to do with each other.

I'm not claiming to be perfect but when we are made aware of such a glaring error why do we continue in that error?

 

[Yitzchak]

The biblical holidays are related to the harvest cycle. Passover week is the first harvest.

Jesus is the passover lamb. But he rose from the dead on the feast of first fruits which comes the day after the sabbath during passover week. Of course we know that Jesus was the firstfruits from the dead.

1Co 15:20 But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.
1Co 15:21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
1Co 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
1Co 15:23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.

Pentecost is the second harvest and the third and final harvest is in the fall.

 

[Yitzchak]

I think that the idea that most Christians have is it is the principle that matters and not so much the details. In other words , they see it as a good thing to celebrate the ressurection , but feel it could be celebrated at any time.

Most are unaware of the history and the traditions that have led to it being celebrated the way it is.

 

[Yitzchak]

I agree with you. we should stick with the Bible. Some traditions are harmless but too much tradition when it comes to such important spiritual issues like the Resurrection is reckless. We should base what we do upon the Bible as closely as possible.

 

[psalms 91]

I agree and I keep Passover anddo not celebrate Easter for the reasons set forth. What I find interesting is that God established Passover as one of the feasts that is forever to be celebrated. We will be celebrating it in the Millenial. Nowhere does it say to keep Easter. The church keeps to manyy thoughts ideas and opinions that are not biblical and in fact have pagan roots. Wonder who wanted that interjected into the church to throw off Gods timetable?

 

[Faulty]

The actual date of the resurrection of Jesus was the Hebrew calender date, Nissan 18 (Passover begins at sundown on Nissan 15). Why do we not celebrate His resurrection on that date?

I seem to recall there was a great debate in the first few centuries in the church over the date for Easter. Although the intent was make it never to coincide with the actual Passover, the Eastern and Western Orthodox churches ended up with different ways to calculate Easter each year so it would always end up around the same time of the year, but never line up with the Passover holiday.

Unfortunately, I can't recall details except this was no small thing within the church at the time and I'm thinking it had a lot to do with the replacement theology absurdity, that the church was the new Israel, which became very popular thanks to men like Augustine. We don't line up with Passover by design.

Sorry I can't recall exactly what went on. So, some of my facts might be off a bit.

 

[probinson]

This is the first verse I always think about when I hear people ask about specific dates and such;

Romans 14:5 (NIV)
One person considers one day more sacred than another; another considers every day alike. Each of them should be fully convinced in their own mind.
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I don't think the date that Jesus was resurrected is at all important. Romans 10:9-10 doesn't say, "If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead (on the right date), you will be saved."

What's important is that we remember the resurrection of Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior. What Pagans did or did not do is completely meaningless to me; Easter is the day I celebrate the resurrection of my Savior.

 

[ECHELON]

I'm not claiming to be perfect but when we are made aware of such a glaring error why do we continue in that error?

My opinion is because humans are creatures of habit, more specifically, following order and tradition. And since the large majority of christians see this error as being a very minor offense, to the point that it isn't an offense at all, order and tradition is something that will be followed, much like celebrateing Jesus' birth in December when everyone knows he was not born in that time of year.

Further more, and again my opinion, saying it's an "error" and making an issue out of this insinuates to me that you think those who chose to celebrate the Lords Resurrection according to tradition rather than the facts you know of is telling me that you believe they are not only not worshipping God rightfully but, because you accuse them of knowingly doing so, believe they are disrespecting God, and even perhaps sinning in the process?

 

[NNSV]

The actual date of the resurrection of Jesus was the Hebrew calender date, Nissan 18 (Passover begins at sundown on Nissan 15). Why do we not celebrate His resurrection on that date?

Because we are a very confused lot called the Church. I will admit, the language in Exo 12 may be confusing, but it says it plain as day:

And ye shall keep it up until the fourteenth day of the same month: and the whole assembly of the congregation of Israel shall kill it in the evening.

And they shall take of the blood, and strike it on the two side posts and on the upper door post of the houses, wherein they shall eat it.


And they shall eat the flesh in that night, roast with fire, and unleavened bread; and with bitter herbs they shall eat it.


Eat not of it raw, nor sodden at all with water, but roast with fire; his head with his legs, and with the purtenance thereof.


And ye shall let nothing of it remain until the morning; and that which remaineth of it until the morning ye shall burn with fire.


And thus shall ye eat it; with your loins girded, your shoes on your feet, and your staff in your hand; and ye shall eat it in haste: it is the LORD's passover.

Exodus 12:6-11

The evening and morning are a complete day, with the evening first. Therefore, if you are in the 14th day, and you are to wait until the evening of that day you are already in, that would make it the next day at evening - the 15th.

The lamb is supposed to be kept for 14 days, and in the evening of the fifteenth day it is killed, cooked and eaten.


Since many Christians do not believe we should follow the old testament, it should not be surprising that the day is wrong. Moreover, the world has switched from Hebrew/Lunar/Constellation calendar to Gregorian/Solar calendar. As such, a Gregorian day begins six hours after a Hebrew day. Rounding up, you have a calendar day that could be days ahead of the actual Hebrew calendar, like this year. Passover was on the evening of 15th of Nissan, which was April 18, 2011 6PM = April 19, 2011 on the Hebrew Calendar. When these holy days (holidays) are translated to a Gregorian Calendar, dates like "April 19" become the literal dates on the calendar, rather than the true translation of Hebrew April 19@6PM = Gregorian April 18@6PM.

 

[SpiritPsalmist]

I think at some point, a believer needs to stop sucking the milk from the baby bottle of doing things according to what our actions mean to us and chew on the meat of what it means to HIM.

Again, I'm reminded of the statement that "God understands!" And HIS response to me is "what exactly is it that you understand when your kids do the opposite of what you've told them?"

Just my opinion of course.

 

[gratefulgrace]

Really why does it matter knowing the actual date? I don't get it.

 

[lismore]

The actual date of the resurrection of Jesus was the Hebrew calender date, Nissan 18 (Passover begins at sundown on Nissan 15). Why do we not celebrate His resurrection on that date?

I believe it was in the mid 4th century church, the Emperor Constantine and others changed the date for Easter so that it would never fall on the passover date. They wanted to remove all traces of Jewish influence on the new Christo-pagan hybrid religion before they launched a ferocious persecution of the Jews.

Chuck Missler has an article on this subject. I recommend it to you!

Traditional Myths: What <em>Really</em> Happened at ''Easter''? - Chuck Missler - Koinonia House

 

[lismore]

Really why does it matter knowing the actual date? I don't get it.

Because Jesus is a Jew. Emanuelle, The Holy One of Israel!

The date was changed because anti-semites wanted to change Christianity away from its Jewish roots and root it in paganism.

In a way I see Christian doctrines woven together in many ways. If you move Christianity away from it's Jewish roots and embrace replacement theology, it changes your view on many other doctrines because they're woven together. God's covenants, salvation, the importance of Jesus, all depend on your view of Israel and the Jews.

As Jesus said himself 'Salvation is of the Jews'. If Jesus said salvation was of the Jews and we ourselves take the Jews out of the equation, then what is salvation of? Whatever you like!

It's why the church drifted apart on many key issues, the Celtic Church of St Columba and St Patrick disagreed with the Catholic church on this.....it led into other doctrines. Salvation by grace v salvation by works being one! E.g If you teach that God's covenant with Israel stands, then you have salvation by grace. If you teach replacement theology, then grace has no part. Jesus' death was a sideshow to your religious works.

Therefore the scriptural position on Easter is important..............

 

[SpiritPsalmist]

Really why does it matter knowing the actual date? I don't get it.

It's not about knowing the actual date...it's about using the belongings (date and paraphernalia) of false gods to try and honor the ONE TRUE GOD. In Deut 12, HE was very explicit in saying "29 “When the Lord your God goes ahead of you and destroys the nations and you drive them out and live in their land, 30 do not fall into the trap of following their customs and worshiping their gods. Do not inquire about their gods, saying, ‘How do these nations worship their gods? I want to follow their example.’ 31 You must not worship the Lord your God the way the other nations worship their gods, for they perform for their gods every detestable act that the Lord hates. They even burn their sons and daughters as sacrifices to their gods".

So my question is mainly, when we know that the name Easter is named after the goddess Ishtar and technically has nothing to do with the resurrection of Jesus, why do we continue to celebrate His resurrection on the same day as the celebration of Ishtar (even though that's not who we're celebrating) yet calling it by her name and oft times even using the same stuff (eggs, chicks, and bunny's) when there really is another actual date that we could celebrate it instead? To me it just appears as if we're just trying to blend in with the world on days that really should not be shared with another...period!

I'm not against celebrating THE Resurrection or His birth (which is not Dec 25). I just don't like the idea that we're teaching the world that pagan activity can be mixed with Holy activity and that God does not care.

 

[psalms 91]

It's not about knowing the actual date...it's about using the belongings (date and paraphernalia) of false gods to try and honor the ONE TRUE GOD. HE was very explicit in saying "29 “When the Lord your God goes ahead of you and destroys the nations and you drive them out and live in their land, 30 do not fall into the trap of following their customs and worshiping their gods. Do not inquire about their gods, saying, ‘How do these nations worship their gods? I want to follow their example.’ 31 You must not worship the Lord your God the way the other nations worship their gods, for they perform for their gods every detestable act that the Lord hates. They even burn their sons and daughters as sacrifices to their gods. (Deut 12)."

So my question is mainly, when we know that the name Easter is named after the goddess Ishtar and technically has nothing to do with the resurrection of Jesus, why do we continue to celebrate His resurrection on the same day as the celebration of Ishtar (even though that's not who we're celebrating) yet calling it by her name and oft times even using the same stuff (eggs, chicks, and bunny's) when there really is another actual date that we could celebrate it instead? To me it just appears as if we're just trying to blend in with the world on days that really should not be shared with another...period!

I'm not against celebrating THE Resurrection or His birth (which is not Dec 25). I just don't like the idea that we're teaching the world that pagan activity can be mixed with Holy activity and that God does not care.

Do you count the Omer as well?

 

[SpiritPsalmist]

Do you count the Omer as well?

I'm not totally there yet, but working on it. It's very baby steps for me. How about you?

Do many churches celebrate the Day of Pentecost anymore? Why or why not?

 

[lismore]

And since the large majority of christians see this error as being a very minor offense, to the point that it isn't an offense at all, order and tradition is something that will be followed, much like celebrateing Jesus' birth in December when everyone knows he was not born in that time of year.

Hi There

If you believe Jesus wasn't born on 25 December, yet celebrate his birthday then..................it's lunacy.

Would you celebrate your mother's birthday six months away from when it actually is? How would that make her feel?

And when you come to celebrate her birthday, would you send her someone else's birthday card? ' Happy Birthday Auntie Flo!

There's a point to which it would seem that you're celebrating someone else's birthday!

 

[probinson]

Really why does it matter knowing the actual date? I don't get it.

It doesn't. It's just another thing for people to disagree about.

JESUS LIVES! HE IS RISEN! HE DIED AND ROSE AGAIN ALL BECAUSE OF HIS LOVE FOR US!

That is what is important about the resurrection. Any debate on when or how we should celebrate that is simply one giant distraction from the entire purpose of our celebration in the first place, IMO.