Date of authorship of Revelation

[samaus123456789]

Revelation was written 41 AD. Paul in 2 Corinthians 12, 55 AD said he knew someone 14 years earlier caught up to heaven that saw things that can't be written which is what happens to John in Revelation 10:4 ; an angel tells him don't write some things down. Paul doesn't say it was the author of Revelation he is talking about because he does not want to boast. Internally in Rev 11 the temple is still standing, and being destroyed which is describing the Romans doing it 70 AD, and Daniel 9 which ended 70 AD said vision, and prophecy would stop 70 AD, and Revelation contains vision, and prophecy. Dan 9 was saying inspired scripture would stop 70 AD. I reject external evidence if it conflicts with inspired scripture therefore I reject apocryphal acts of John (150 AD), and Irenaeus (180 AD) that say Revelation was written in the 90s AD under Domitian. They must of had corrupted oral traditions of when it was written passed on to them.

 

[Maria Billingsley]

Revelation was written 41 AD. Paul in 2 Corinthians 12, 55 AD said he knew someone 14 years earlier caught up to heaven that saw things that can't be written which is what happens to John in Revelation 10:4 ; an angel tells him don't write some things down. Paul doesn't say it was the author of Revelation he is talking about because he does not want to boast. Internally in Rev 11 the temple is still standing, and being destroyed which is describing the Romans doing it 70 AD, and Daniel 9 which ended 70 AD said vision, and prophecy would stop 70 AD, and Revelation contains vision, and prophecy. Dan 9 was saying inspired scripture would stop 70 AD. I reject external evidence if it conflicts with inspired scripture therefore I reject apocryphal acts of John (150 AD), and Irenaeus (180 AD) that say Revelation was written in the 90s AD under Domitian. They must of had corrupted oral traditions of when it was written passed on to them.

I agree. One only needs to read the opening verses in the book of Revelation to realize this book is talking about a future event in the first century. Jesus Christ of Nazareth confirms this event as well.

Revelation 1:1-3 (NKJV)
The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him to show His servants—things which must shortly take place. And He sent and signified it by His angel to His servant John, who bore witness to the word of God, and to the testimony of Jesus Christ, to all things that he saw. Blessed is he who reads and those who hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written in it; for the time is near.

Matthew 16:28 (NKJV)
> “Assuredly, I say to you, there are some standing here who shall not taste death till they see the Son of Man coming in His kingdom.”q
* Mark 9:1 (NKJV): "And He said to them, 'Assuredly, I say to you that there are some standing here who will not taste death till they see the kingdom of God present with power.'"
* Luke 9:27 (NKJV): "But I tell you truly, there are some standing here who shall not taste death till they see the kingdom of God.”

 

[samaus123456789]

I agree. One only needs to read the opening verses in the book of Revelation to realize this book is talking about a future event in the first century. Jesus Christ of Nazareth confirms this event as well.

Revelation 1:1-3 (NKJV)
The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him to show His servants—things which must shortly take place. And He sent and signified it by His angel to His servant John, who bore witness to the word of God, and to the testimony of Jesus Christ, to all things that he saw. Blessed is he who reads and those who hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written in it; for the time is near.

Matthew 16:28 (NKJV)
> “Assuredly, I say to you, there are some standing here who shall not taste death till they see the Son of Man coming in His kingdom.”q
* Mark 9:1 (NKJV): "And He said to them, 'Assuredly, I say to you that there are some standing here who will not taste death till they see the kingdom of God present with power.'"
* Luke 9:27 (NKJV): "But I tell you truly, there are some standing here who shall not taste death till they see the kingdom of God.”

amen thanks for the positive response God bless you. In case you are preterist only Rev 1-12 happened 70 ad though rev 13-22 is future

 

[Maria Billingsley]

amen thanks for the positive response God bless you. In case you are preterist only Rev 1-12 happened 70 ad though rev 13-22 is future

Sure. That is where we depart. I believe the beast is Nero, Caesar, 666.

Further explanation:
The interpretation that the number 666 refers to the Roman Emperor Nero Caesar is the most widely accepted historical view among biblical scholars, relying on a method called gematria. Gematria is the Hebrew practice of assigning a numerical value to letters. When the name Nerōn Kaisar (Nero Caesar) is transliterated into Hebrew letters (נרון קסר), the sum of their numerical values is 666. This interpretation suggests the number was a coded message to first-century Christians suffering under Nero's persecution, allowing the author of Revelation to identify the oppressive emperor (the "Beast") without risking direct confrontation with Rome.

 

[2PhiloVoid]

Revelation was written 41 AD. Paul in 2 Corinthians 12, 55 AD said he knew someone 14 years earlier caught up to heaven that saw things that can't be written which is what happens to John in Revelation 10:4 ; an angel tells him don't write some things down. Paul doesn't say it was the author of Revelation he is talking about because he does not want to boast. Internally in Rev 11 the temple is still standing, and being destroyed which is describing the Romans doing it 70 AD, and Daniel 9 which ended 70 AD said vision, and prophecy would stop 70 AD, and Revelation contains vision, and prophecy. Dan 9 was saying inspired scripture would stop 70 AD. I reject external evidence if it conflicts with inspired scripture therefore I reject apocryphal acts of John (150 AD), and Irenaeus (180 AD) that say Revelation was written in the 90s AD under Domitian. They must of had corrupted oral traditions of when it was written passed on to them.

We don't know that Paul was referring to John of Patmos. To say as such is pure conjecture. We also don't know when Revelation was written or whether John of Patmos is the same John who wrote the Gospel and letters.

So, I wouldn't put too much stock into holding firmly to any one particular assessment of the meaning of the book of Revelation.

Moreover, I think rejecting external evidence is a cultic praxis for reading the Bible and should be avoided.

 

[2PhiloVoid]

Sure. That is where we depart. I believe the beast is Nero, Caesar, 666.

Further explanation:
The interpretation that the number 666 refers to the Roman Emperor Nero Caesar is the most widely accepted historical view among biblical scholars, relying on a method called gematria. Gematria is the Hebrew practice of assigning a numerical value to letters. When the name Nerōn Kaisar (Nero Caesar) is transliterated into Hebrew letters (נרון קסר), the sum of their numerical values is 666. This interpretation suggests the number was a coded message to first-century Christians suffering under Nero's persecution, allowing the author of Revelation to identify the oppressive emperor (the "Beast") without risking direct confrontation with Rome.

I don't think gematria has as much to do with reading 666 as many seem to think it does.

 

[Maria Billingsley]

I don't think gematria has as much to do with reading 666 as many seem to think it does.

Open to alternative views!

 

[2PhiloVoid]

Open to alternative views!

For the moment, I'll just say that while I think there's room to apply 666 to Nero, I prefer to read this number in a way that is consistent with the symbolic mode by which everything else is stated by Christ to John in the book of Revelation. And if we remain consistent in our applied hermeneutics, we won't artificially bring in a nod to gematria and assume that this is the interpretive key of the book when it might very well not be.

But, I could be wrong.