Darwin's evolution theory?

[Melethiel]

British is not a species, it's a nationality.

Now PLEASE answer the question...........

If we came from apes, why haven't they evolved into us yet????????

Altogether now...

Evolution does not teach that humans come from apes. Evolution teaches that both humans and apes come from a common ancestor that was neither/both human nor ape.

As such, you are asking us to prove a strawman.

It is like asking why a lion hasn't evolved into a domestic cat yet. I don't see anyone denying that lions are related to cats.

 

[linssue55]

I do not believe I am a liar - the OP was concerning Darwins Theory which I posted the website to where it is going through court - because parents as myself are fed up with Kids being taught they came from APES (Lucy)... and please do not say this is not happening - the PewReport shows parents everywhere and I have kids and lived in 6 states and it is still being taught.

Now - if this is being a Liar then you should not post in a thread who you claim are liars - This whole thread was concerning Monkeys right from the beginning - and why did the debate continue??? Because the opposite kept saying we did not have proof? Proof for what - that God made us human??

This is not the other evolution thread - this is Darwins Theory - perhaps you got it messed up with that one???

 

[linssue55]

evolutionary THEORY is a load of hogwash, and the only reason it originated was as a way to get rid of God. natural selection is a God-instituted process, and survival of the fittest is a true theory. nearly all Creationists acknowledge this (take, for example, the different breeds of dogs, different frog species, &c. &c. these have all orginated through a process of survival of the fittest, and natural and artificial selection. God probably created one or two species of dogs, which has since developed into many different species and sub-species depending on habitat (adaptive radiation). the same is the case with most other species.
the sad thing is that evolution is taught as fact, when there is almost no fossil evidence or anything of the kind to support it, and when 'scientists' look at everything through their own biased glasses without examining the evidence from an unbiased perspective. evolution is not science, it is one man's fallible, unproven theory about the origins of the universe, the whole purpose of which is to tear down the authority and power of God.
Darwinian evolutionary theory is incompatible with God's truth of humankind as a unique creature with a reasonable soul, who is accountable to God for all things we do. the whole plan of salvation collapses if we are not unique, reasonable creatures, but rather highly developed animals with a well-developed communication system and complex environmental responses.

 

[GraceInHim]

Sorry it is gone -

here he is

 

[Dark_Lite]

Then why do you suppose evolutionists are so threatened by Intelligent Design theory?

The vast majority of the scientific community has basically shrugged off the ID "controversy." Personally I'd perfer to see them oppose it more but whatever. Trust me, they're not threatened by it.

As was said before, the Dover trial has shown that once again creationism/ID has no basis in reality.

 

[invisible trousers]

I do not believe I am a liar - the OP was concerning Darwins Theory which I posted the website to where it is going through court - because parents as myself are fed up with Kids being taught they came from APES (Lucy)... and please do not say this is not happening - the PewReport shows parents everywhere and I have kids and lived in 6 states and it is still being taught.

Now - if this is being a Liar then you should not post in a thread who you claim are liars - This whole thread was concerning Monkeys right from the beginning - and why did the debate continue??? Because the opposite kept saying we did not have proof? Proof for what - that God made us human??

This is not the other evolution thread - this is Darwins Theory - perhaps you got it messed up with that one???

"evolution claims that xxxx"
"no, evolution does not claim xxxx, but instead yyyy. see this link for more info"
"what! "evolution claims that xxxx"

this is exactly what the creationists in this thread are doing, and that makes them liars.

 

[linssue55]

No, evolution only deny's your understanding of God's creative involvement in the creation of humans. It does not, by any means, mitigate against God's involvment, only God as a "scientific" explanation.



Why?

Woe to those that do....."For there should be NO God's before or after me".....

Agreed, but what does this have to do with evolution? Evolution is not a religion, nor is it a god (at least not to me, nor more than my understanding of gravity is...).



Again, you are making a category error. You only see conflicts between evolutionary theory and the Scriptures because of the hermeneutical lens through which you interpret it.

I believe in creationism, for that is what the Lord TEACHES. You believe your way and i will believe mine. Talking to evolutionists, is like talking to atheists.............

 

[GraceInHim]

"evolution claims that xxxx"
"no, evolution does not claim xxxx, but instead yyyy. see this link for more info"
"what! "evolution claims that xxxx"

this is exactly what the creationists in this thread are doing, and that makes them liars.

sorry - if Apes are our ancestors - then why hasn't a human mated with one - look at the zebra and horsey - my children do not lie when they are taught they ancestors were Apes - LUCY?

maybe it is cause creationist are beating the evolutionist over this

 

[invisible trousers]

the same is the case with most other species.
the sad thing is that evolution is taught as fact, when there is almost no fossil evidence or anything of the kind to support it,

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc/section1.html

i invite all creationists to continue to show their ignorance regarding evolution

 

[linssue55]

ie, the "NYAH NYAH NYAH IM RIGHT YOUR WRONG" school of argument



i'd rather chill with the "scientific elite" than with the "religious elite" who doesn't think christians who believe in a non-literal genesis are not actually christians



flex those reading comprehension muscles!

http://www.christianforums.com/showthread.php?p=19778825&postcount=183

We don't HAVE to back it up.........GOD DOES......read the bible..........."The Lord say's BELIVERS out of fellowship, are like UNBELIEVERS". Divine view point is forgotten, and human viewpoint takes over. ..............

Truth hurts.

NO.....you keep talking about NATIONALITY'S, and keep AVOIDING SPECIES.


Answer the question.....and NOT with another question. Think you can handle that??

 

[Donkeytron]

Oh drats, you uncovered our fundie strategy of bribing a bunch of Ph.Ds of diverse religious and philosophical persuasions into flim-flamming the unsuspecting public (and a bunch of scientifically illiterate colleagues who must have cheated and bluffed their way through their education) with pseudo-scientific books and articles before we execute all the immoral atheists so that no one and nothing will stand between us and our Talibanesque theocratic aspirations! Curses, foiled again!

It is a fundy strategy. Check out the funding of the Discovery Institute.
http://www.pandasthumb.org/archives/2005/09/fred_barton_int.html

Hmm.most of it from ultra conservative fundamentalists, whaddya know.

Check out the wedge document.
http://www.antievolution.org/features/wedge.html

Goals: To replace materialistic explanations with the theistic understanding that nature and hurnan beings are created by God. Sounds like good science to me!

Ask why Behe, Dembski, and the other credentialed (the former more than the latter) scientists stick to writing pop-sci books and don't publish in scholarly journals. The journals are biased? Then where are the biased refusal letters that should come with every rejected paper?

Ask why Behe, under oath, said that ID isn't science as science is classically defined, and the way he defines it, is no different than astrology.

Why do you think, also in the trial, it was shown that the DI's suggested textbook, "Of Pandas and People" simply replaced the words "creationists" with "intelligent design proponants" when the teaching of creationism was ruled illegal?

http://www.christianforums.com/t2293195-modern-day-transitional-form-found.html

Pwned.

 

[GraceInHim]

I found the ANCESTOR to HUMAN

 

[coolstylinstud]

Wow so we look like monkeys man that completely blows our thory out of the water

Evolution- We come from the same ancestors as monkeys and we evolved

Bible-We were created in six days by the holy father God

Yeah those dont go against each other at all

 

[invisible trousers]

Wow so we look like monkeys man that completely blows our thory out of the water

Evolution- We come from the same ancestors as monkeys and we evolved

Bible-We were created in six days by the holy father God

Yeah those dont go against each other at all

maybe genesis creation wasn't written literally and is not meant to be interpreted literally

 

[coolstylinstud]

maybe genesis creation wasn't written literally and is not meant to be interpreted literally

Yeah and maybe we are supposed to sin maybe the bible is all written to mean the opposite

 

[linssue55]

Altogether now...

Evolution does not teach that humans come from apes. Evolution teaches that both humans and apes come from a common ancestor that was neither/both human nor ape.

As such, you are asking us to prove a strawman.

It is like asking why a lion hasn't evolved into a domestic cat yet. I don't see anyone denying that lions are related to cats.

Well I AM denying we came from apes or or monkeys......WE CAME FROM THE HANDS OF GOD......READ GENESIS..........

YOU ARE DENYING THE WORK OF THE LORD.....WHEN HE STATES BLATANTY AND FACTUALLY HOW HE CREATED MAN......PERIOD....


THE PROBLEM HERE IS YOU CAN'T STAND THAT THE LORD DID IT......BECAUSE YOUR OWN BELIEFS "SUPERCEEDS" THE WORD OF GOD.

And frankly.....you don't CARE what the bible say's..........for your the one with the POWER of Omniscience.

I will no longer read your posts....for this is blashemous, and I am commanded to sperate from those that are against the word of God.

 

[Melethiel]

Yeah and maybe we are supposed to sin maybe the bible is all written to mean the opposite

Strawman...the Genesis account is written in a different literary style than, say, the commandments. How can "6 days" mean "6 24-hour days" if the Sun wasn't created until the 4th day?

 

[Dark_Lite]

I found the ANCESTOR to HUMAN

The evidence only accumulates.

 

[GraceInHim]

Wow so we look like monkeys man that completely blows our thory out of the water

Evolution- We come from the same ancestors as monkeys and we evolved

Bible-We were created in six days by the holy father God

Yeah those dont go against each other at all

Your Divine Grace, is the intellect helpful in knowing God?
Yes. Unless you have got the necessary intellect, then you are no better than the animals. The animals have no intellect for understanding God, but the human being has got that intellect. That is the distinction between animal and human being.

But the human being has a special intellect, more developed than the animals'. He can understand what he is, what God is, what this cosmic manifestation is, and what the aim of life is--how we should conduct our lives. These things are prerogatives for the human being. The animals have no such prerogative.

 

[Melethiel]

Well I AM denying we came from apes or or monkeys......WE CAME FROM THE HANDS OF GOD......READ GENESIS..........

YOU ARE DENYING THE WORK OF THE LORD.....WHEN HE STATES BLATANTY AND FACTUALLY HOW HE CREATED MAN......PERIOD....


THE PROBLEM HERE IS YOU CAN'T STAND THAT THE LORD DID IT......BECAUSE YOUR OWN BELIEFS "SUPERCEEDS" THE WORD OF GOD.

And frankly.....you don't CARE what the bible say's..........for your the one with the POWER of Omniscience.

I will no longer read your posts....for this is blashemous, and I am commanded to sperate from those that are against the word of God.

I do not believe that we came from apes. Neither do evolutionists.
I believe God created everything. Evolution makes no statement one way or the other.
I shall ignore the personal attacks that accuse me of blasphemy. Frankly, the literalness of Genesis is NOT the central doctrine of the Christian faith. The Gospel is.