Darwin's evolution theory?

[coolstylinstud]

Exactly. The Bible is not a science textbook. The primary purpose of the Bible is not to educate us all in biology. The Bible is centered around the Gospel, not Genesis. The Bible teaches that "God Created." It doesn't say HOW He did

He breathed the breath of life into humans and he made us from dust yes the bible is to educate us in things an dcreation just happend to be one of those things

 

[A. believer]

Evolution is agnostic.

Then why do you suppose evolutionists are so threatened by Intelligent Design theory?

 

[Donkeytron]

Methodological naturalism must presuppose philosophical naturalism in order to address the issue of the origin of life.

And how's that been working out for the last 500 years?

 

[GraceInHim]

So if evolution, as we are to believe, is known by all to be scientific, why is no one giving a review of the evidence for it to educate those who think we came from monkeys? So far the burden has been on those who oppose evolution to prove wrong evolution, or prove their view right.

Is there no burden on the evolutionist to promote his own view from the evidence?

exactly

 

[Donkeytron]

Then why do you suppose evolutionists are so threatened by Intelligent Design theory?

Maybe because it's a political movement of no scientific substance that preys upon a scientifically illiterate public to further the agenda of fundamentalist christians?

Oh but don't worry. The Dover trial has gone a long way towards exposing the ID sham. Their 15 minutes is up. Now creationists are going to have to figure another way to slip creationism into science books.

 

[GraceInHim]

Maybe because it's a political movement of no scientific substance that preys upon a scientifically illiterate public to further the agenda of fundamentalist christians?

Oh but don't worry. The Dover trial has gone a long way towards exposing the ID sham. Their 15 minutes is up. Now creationists are going to have to figure another way to slip creationism into science books.

I know this is to AB - but excuse me ID is God - for no one could intelligently design I human being as he did - so when the Creation people talk about ID - they are talking about GOD

 

[coolstylinstud]

Now creationists are going to have to figure another way to slip creationism into science books.

It may not be science but it is biblical

 

[Melethiel]

It may not be science but it is biblical

Perhaps so. But as it is not science, it belongs in a religion/philosophy textbook, not a science one. I read my biology textbook to learn biology, not to learn a bajillion origins theory. As evolution is not concerned with the origin of life anyway, but with the way that life developed, the two are not mutually contradictory.

 

[A. believer]

Maybe because it's a political movement of no scientific substance that preys upon a scientifically illiterate public to further the agenda of fundamentalist christians?

Oh but don't worry. The Dover trial has gone a long way towards exposing the ID sham. Their 15 minutes is up. Now creationists are going to have to figure another way to slip creationism into science books.

Oh drats, you uncovered our fundie strategy of bribing a bunch of Ph.Ds of diverse religious and philosophical persuasions into flim-flamming the unsuspecting public (and a bunch of scientifically illiterate colleagues who must have cheated and bluffed their way through their education) with pseudo-scientific books and articles before we execute all the immoral atheists so that no one and nothing will stand between us and our Talibanesque theocratic aspirations! Curses, foiled again!

 

[A. believer]

I know this is to AB - but excuse me ID is God - for no one could intelligently design I human being as he did - so when the Creation people talk about ID - they are talking about GOD

The theory does, indeed, point to some kind of god, although it isn't, by any means, inextricably linked to the triune God of the Bible. Not all ID theorists are Christians.

 

[lismore]

Perhaps so. But as it is not science, it belongs in a religion/philosophy textbook, not a science one. I read my biology textbook to learn biology, not to learn a bajillion origins theory. As evolution is not concerned with the origin of life anyway, but with the way that life developed, the two are not mutually contradictory.

Well, from what I remember of High School Chemistry, evolution theory is best taught with rapunzle and that ILK.

 

[linssue55]

While the Scriptures may possibly be "more real" than what we see, feel, touch, see or think, there must be some consonance between the two, or else religion is ultimately a worthless concept for embodied creatures.

I will say AGAIN!!....Evolution deny's the creation of humans from the Hands of our Lord.......evolution deny's Adam and Eve.

And yes, for those that believe in evolution, MUST without a doubt, put the plan of creation by GOD on the back burner.

Woe to those that do....."For there should be NO God's before or after me".....

to BELIEVE scientists OVER the word of God, only reminds me more each day, of just how Apostate christians have become.

 

[linssue55]

i'm still thinking about leaving. i don't want to be around christians who believe that the ends (literal genesis) justify the means (being dishonest liars).

Watch out for the door.........bye-bye

 

[linssue55]

This is basically the litmus test for anyone who says something for or (usually) against evolution. If this question, or some variation of it comes out of your mouth, you need to start at the beginning and learn what evolution is.

By way of analogy, if we americans came from british people, why are there still british around?

British is not a species, it's a nationality.

Now PLEASE answer the question...........

If we came from apes, why haven't they evolved into us yet????????

 

[depthdeception]

I will say AGAIN!!....Evolution deny's the creation of humans from the Hands of our Lord.......evolution deny's Adam and Eve.

No, evolution only deny's your understanding of God's creative involvement in the creation of humans. It does not, by any means, mitigate against God's involvment, only God as a "scientific" explanation.

And yes, for those that believe in evolution, MUST without a doubt, put the plan of creation by GOD on the back burner.

Why?

Woe to those that do....."For there should be NO God's before or after me".....

Agreed, but what does this have to do with evolution? Evolution is not a religion, nor is it a god (at least not to me, nor more than my understanding of gravity is...).

to BELIEVE scientists OVER the word of God, only reminds me more each day, of just how Apostate christians have become.

Again, you are making a category error. You only see conflicts between evolutionary theory and the Scriptures because of the hermeneutical lens through which you interpret it.

 

[linssue55]

None of the Evoluntionists actually backing up their claims with evidence.
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Evolutionists failing to give a clear def. to what evolution is.
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Evolutionists repeating pratts even after shown a link disproving all their arguments
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Christians accusing other believers of being non-chrsitian since teh y may or may not be lying through a misunderstanding of the def. of evolution, which hasnt been clerified with a exact def.
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evoluntionists not stating any clear interpretation of waht they believe, leaving creationists to make their own predictions and assumptions, then turning on creationists saying that we were wrong in doing so
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heres a link im posting http://bible.com

if you bothered to find Genisis-- shouldnt be hard to me 1.6 secs, you would have found...

-hmm dishonest liars, does anyone else think that he was calling us truthful?

 

[GraceInHim]

not only that but why cant humans get pregnant by Apes??? Look at the animals which have become - pugapoo - mixed mutts - I think there was a zebra with a horse LOL

 

[GraceInHim]

Sorry it is gone -

 

[linssue55]

none of the creationists actually backing up their claims with real evidence?
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so-called christians deliberately lying about the definition of evolution?
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creationists repeating pratts even after shown a link disproving all their arguments?
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christians accusing other believers of not actually being christian because they don't view genesis as literal?
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so-called christians deliberately lying about predictions made by evolution (ie WE CAME FROM MONKEYS DURRR)?
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do you remember that link i posted?
http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/list.html

if you bothered to find item CC150--it shouldn't have been hard, it took me 20 seconds, you would have found...



i'm still thinking about leaving. i don't want to be around christians who believe that the ends (literal genesis) justify the means (being dishonest liars).

We don't HAVE to back it up.........GOD DOES......read the bible..........."The Lord say's BELIVERS out of fellowship, are like UNBELIEVERS". Divine view point is forgotten, and human viewpoint takes over.

 

[invisible trousers]

We don't HAVE to back it up.........GOD DOES......read the bible..........."The Lord say's BELIVERS out of fellowship, are like UNBELIEVERS". Divine view point is forgotten, and human viewpoint takes over.

ie, the "NYAH NYAH NYAH IM RIGHT YOUR WRONG" school of argument

So they accept the status quo of the "scientific elite" presuming that anyone who opposes them must be infected with fundamentalist cooties.

i'd rather chill with the "scientific elite" than with the "religious elite" who doesn't think christians who believe in a non-literal genesis are not actually christians

British is not a species, it's a nationality.

Now PLEASE answer the question...........

If we came from apes, why haven't they evolved into us yet????????

flex those reading comprehension muscles!

http://www.christianforums.com/showthread.php?p=19778825&postcount=183

Claim CC150:
If we are descended from apes, why are there still apes around?

Response:

1. Humans and other apes are descended from a common ancestor whose population split to become two (and more) lineages. The question is rather like asking, "If many Americans and Australians are descended from Europeans, why are there still Europeans around?" Creationists themselves recognize the invalidity of this claim (AIG n.d.).