Darwin's evolution theory?

[greeker57married]

And the KKK worship Jesus.

I guess that means we can throw Christianity into the garbage heap where it belongs, no? After all, I'm using the same "logic" as you are.

The KKK did nor does not worship Jesus but goes under the guise of Christianity, but their is nothing Christian about them.

God Bless
Greeker

 

[invisible trousers]

Darwin's theory has been a theory for close to 150 years! With all the science today,it still remains a theory! If it was a law then we would have to throw out entropy and the Second Law of Thermodynamics. Too bad it is largely viewed as a law today!

i don't think you understand science.

keep in mind gravity is still a theory too.

 

[Maynard Keenan]

Regarding Hitler and also "the fruits of Darwins theories.": Red Herring arguemnts.

Regarding the KKK not being Christian: No true scotsman fallacy.

Regarding thermodynamics: Take an introductory thermodynamics class and you will see that this is a junk argument.

Regarding the repeated references to monkeys and the ridiculosu statements made follwoign these: This si nothing more than trying to derail discussion by repeating an already refuted point and making ridiculous statements.


Can Creationists possibly argue without using logical fallacies, arguments that have already been refuted, and arguments that use an ignorant view of science?

 

[invisible trousers]

Can Creationists possibly argue without using logical fallacies, arguments that have already been refuted, and arguments that use an ignorant view of science?

no.

 

[Jimmy West]

I know they're my words. How else am I supposed to make sense of your post? You didn't give a Bible verse, Church documents, or any actual objection.

I told you where I got it from. One thing about the Bible. It takes wisdom and common sense to really figure things out. God says that he will give you wisdom if you ask Him for it.

 

[Jimmy West]

i don't think you understand science.

keep in mind gravity is still a theory too.

Gravity is NOT a theory. It is completely understood.

 

[GraceInHim]

The Bible describes the suspension of the Earth in space.

1. Job 26:7
   He stretches out the north over empty space;
   He hangs the earth on nothing.

1. Statements Consistent With Meteorology
   
   • The Bible describes the circulation of the atmosphere.
     
     
     1. Ecclesiastes 1:6
        The wind goes toward the south,
        And turns around to the north;
        The wind whirls about continually,
        And comes again on its circuit.
   • The Bible includes some principles of fluid dynamics.
     1. Job 28:25
        To establish a weight for the wind,
        And apportion the waters by measure.
     The fact that air has weight was proven scientifically only about 300 years ago. The relative weights of air and water are needed for the efficient functioning of the world’s hydrologic cycle, which in turn sustains life on the earth.(If you are a physics enthusiast, please ignore our omission of the terms mass, gravity, and density from this comment.)

 

[Dark_Lite]

I told you where I got it from. One thing about the Bible. It takes wisdom and common sense to really figure things out. God says that he will give you wisdom if you ask Him for it.

You said "the voice of God" is your objection.

That's not an objection. It's a vague statement with no meaning. Please say what your actual objections are...

 

[Donkeytron]

I am glad to hear that!

Darwin's theory has been a theory for close to 150 years! With all the science today,it still remains a theory! If it was a law then we would have to throw out entropy and the Second Law of Thermodynamics. Too bad it is largely viewed as a law today!

Dude, even creationists say not to use thernodynamics as an argument against evolution:

http://www.answersingenesis.org/home/area/faq/dont_use.asp

That using 2LoT is a bad idea is probably the only thing AIG got right on their whole site.

 

[Donkeytron]

Gravity is NOT a theory. It is completely understood.

Strange, last I checked it absolutely positively is not understood. We haven't a clue yet as to what make gravity work, and we don'y yet have a unified theory of it.

 

[Donkeytron]

The Bible describes the suspension of the Earth in space.

1. Job 26:7
   
   He stretches out the north over empty space;
   
   He hangs the earth on nothing.

Pretty vague for a scientific document.

1. Statements Consistent With Meteorology
   • The Bible describes the circulation of the atmosphere.
     
     
     
     
     1. Ecclesiastes 1:6
        
        The wind goes toward the south,
        
        And turns around to the north;
        
        The wind whirls about continually,
        
        And comes again on its circuit.

1. Meaningless in the context of modern meteorology.
2. [/QUOTE]
   • The Bible includes some principles of fluid dynamics.
     
     1. Job 28:25
        
        To establish a weight for the wind,
        
        And apportion the waters by measure.
     
     
     

[/QUOTE]

Doesn't sound like any fluid dynamics I've ever heard of. Drop it already; the bible isn't a scientific paper.

 

[greeker57married]

Maynard Keenan

Regarding the KKK not being Christian: No true scotsman fallacy.

no, not a "no true scotsman fallacy", you read the Word of God and the KKK does not line up with it.

I had a friend many years ago that became a member of the KKK and he hated blacks so much that he trainned karate so he could beat up on them. Needless to say he did not remain my friend long. I worked with a member of the KKK who hate blacks and called Jesus Christ a *******. He hated everybody including himself.

God bless
Greeker

 

[invisible trousers]

Gravity is NOT a theory. It is completely understood.

hahaha what? i can confidently say without a doubt that we understand evolution much more than we understand gravity.

 

[PaladinValer]

if you do not like my post then do not answer them with sarcastic remarksp

I only did what you did.

- anyone who hates another is no part of God referring to KKK - that is not the same - Hitler thought he was a God.

1. You've missed the point then, haven't you?
2. Hitler didn't think he was a god, although the propaganda machine depicted him as divine.

I guess you as I recall into evolution - can throw out the Bible - because it just doesn't fit into Gods plan. Intelligent design does though.

Based on your gross inaccurate and misunderstood "knowledge" of what evolution is, I gather, which is proven in one of your later posts:

yes but evolution creeped in schools and teaching kids we came from Monkeys - and thank God it is going to court

Sorry, wrong on both courts.

1. Evolution states that modern humanity and monkies share a common ancestor.
2. Evolution was brought to trial, not God.

so there are problems when certain evolution theories go against God who is the Creator and kids would know there is a higher power to answer to

And here you are wrong again. Evolution has to do with life after it comes into being. It has nothing to do with the creation of life itself.

if you feel this way then please do not debate - misrepresentations? where? I have kids and they were told they came from Monkeys - sorry my greatx10000grandmother was not LUCY she was HUMAN

Then they are seriously misinformed. Perhaps they are homeschooled? If so, then it isn't surprising they would be taught that.

100% of biologists say that evolution doesn't say humans came from monkies, apes, or any other similiar species. You may either accept that as a fact or ignore the truth.

Instant Expert: Evolution

That's a copy-and-paste. Furthermore, it isn't even cited, which is against CF rules.

 

[PaladinValer]

Gravity is still a theory. We have't got all the math worked out properly. Until we do, it remains a theory. When we get the math worked out, then, I believe, it becomes a law.

So therefore, a theory can be a fact at the same time.

And evolution is no different. We've observed it; we just don't got all the math done yet.

 

[GraceInHim]

[/list]Pretty vague for a scientific document.
[/list]Meaningless in the context of modern meteorology.
[*]

• The Bible includes some principles of fluid dynamics.
  1. Job 28:25
     
     To establish a weight for the wind,
     
     And apportion the waters by measure.
  
  
  

[/list][/QUOTE]


Doesn't sound like any fluid dynamics I've ever heard of. Drop it already; the bible isn't a scientific paper.[/QUOTE]

Ok I guess the Bible is meaningless and God doesn't already know everything???

 

[linssue55]

Do Christians believe in Darwin's evolution theory? And should Christians believe it? Do christians deny the evolution theory totally?

Agreeing with Darwin, is to disagree with the Lord's plan, and Adam and Eve. It is bunk.

 

[Donkeytron]

Ok I guess the Bible is meaningless and God doesn't already know everything???

Come now. Are you confusing yourself? You suggested that Bible passages could pass the test of scientific rigor. There is a difference between meaningless and non scientific.

 

[Donkeytron]

Agreeing with Darwin, is to disagree with the Lord's plan, and Adam and Eve. It is bunk.

Evolutionary theory has been improved upon by 150 years of empirical research and multiple lines of evidence. It takes more to falsify it than saying "it is bunk because it does not compliment my reading of an ancient text."

 

[GraceInHim]

Evolutionary theory has been improved upon by 150 years of empirical research and multiple lines of evidence. It takes more to falsify it than saying "it is bunk because it does not compliment my reading of an ancient text."

and so has sin in this world =