Dizredux
The point of the fallacy is that there are a multitude of other explanations that also cannot be ruled out. Right now we have no way of testing for either fine tuning or design so it remains conjecture. An interesting conjecture perhaps but a hypothetical conjecture nonetheless.
In otherwords while interesting, none of these hypothetical ideas have any validation at this point and to take them beyond the range of hypothetical enters the range of fallacious thinking.
If you would keep in in the range of interesting hypothetical possibility, there would be no problem but you don't. You keep trying to work with it as established fact and it isn't.
I would be interested in a cite to a peer reviewed paper where is stated or asserted that the universe is "fine tuned for life" or designed and not referring to appearance but fact, I suspect you cannot. What you do find is a lot of discussion of the ideas the same as you find lots of discussion of multiverses. With any of these, no evidence, strictly hypothetical.
I would have no issues with the idea that the possible appearance of some aspects of the universe looks like fine tuning or design but you very often harken back to the universe "is" fine tuned or designed. This is where you commit a fallacy in thinking.
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A good metaphor on this is that if my parents had not met, I would not be here. They did meet however and here I am.
There are several ways of looking at this.
The universe was fine tuned or designed so my parents would meet.
The universe is in such a way as to allow that meeting to be a possibility
The universe is as it is, natural or God made and it turns out that it is in such a way to allow my parents to exist and meet but their meeting was not a part of any design, it is just the way it happened.
God made the universe in such a way that I specifically would be here.
There are many permutations on this but the fact is we simply don't know which would be true and all are possibilities (I could come up with more if I took the time to examine it. These were just off the top of my head.)
So here the syllogism would be that if the universe is designed or fine tuned for me to be here, my parents would have met and I would exist.
I exist
therefore the universe was designed for me to be here.
Or your version
If the universe is designed or fine tuned for me to be here, my parents would have met and I would exist.
I exist.
Therefore the universe is possibly designed and/or fine tuned for my parents to meet and for me to be here.
The logical structures are similar. The first is a fallacy because it deals with the syllogism as fact and there are other possibilities. The second is hypothetical conjecture again as there are other possibilities of which none have been established.
Again, just my thoughts.
Dizredux
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All appearance means here is that fine tuning and design cannot be ruled out but to call it support or evidence for design/fine tuning doesn't work. Once you start to assert the existence of fine tuning or design you will end right back in the fallacy.
The point of the fallacy is that there are a multitude of other explanations that also cannot be ruled out. Right now we have no way of testing for either fine tuning or design so it remains conjecture. An interesting conjecture perhaps but a hypothetical conjecture nonetheless.
In otherwords while interesting, none of these hypothetical ideas have any validation at this point and to take them beyond the range of hypothetical enters the range of fallacious thinking.
If you would keep in in the range of interesting hypothetical possibility, there would be no problem but you don't. You keep trying to work with it as established fact and it isn't.
I would be interested in a cite to a peer reviewed paper where is stated or asserted that the universe is "fine tuned for life" or designed and not referring to appearance but fact, I suspect you cannot. What you do find is a lot of discussion of the ideas the same as you find lots of discussion of multiverses. With any of these, no evidence, strictly hypothetical.
I would have no issues with the idea that the possible appearance of some aspects of the universe looks like fine tuning or design but you very often harken back to the universe "is" fine tuned or designed. This is where you commit a fallacy in thinking.
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A good metaphor on this is that if my parents had not met, I would not be here. They did meet however and here I am.
There are several ways of looking at this.
The universe was fine tuned or designed so my parents would meet.
The universe is in such a way as to allow that meeting to be a possibility
The universe is as it is, natural or God made and it turns out that it is in such a way to allow my parents to exist and meet but their meeting was not a part of any design, it is just the way it happened.
God made the universe in such a way that I specifically would be here.
There are many permutations on this but the fact is we simply don't know which would be true and all are possibilities (I could come up with more if I took the time to examine it. These were just off the top of my head.)
So here the syllogism would be that if the universe is designed or fine tuned for me to be here, my parents would have met and I would exist.
I exist
therefore the universe was designed for me to be here.
Or your version
If the universe is designed or fine tuned for me to be here, my parents would have met and I would exist.
I exist.
Therefore the universe is possibly designed and/or fine tuned for my parents to meet and for me to be here.
The logical structures are similar. The first is a fallacy because it deals with the syllogism as fact and there are other possibilities. The second is hypothetical conjecture again as there are other possibilities of which none have been established.
Again, just my thoughts.
Dizredux
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