Darwinism = Eugenics And Racism

MandM · Oct 30, 2007

Have you all seen Endgame by Alex Jones yet?

You can see it right here:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?d...start=10&num=10&so=0&type=t100_all&plindex=11

This film does an amazing job of tracing the development of eugenics from the sick philosophies of Malthus and Darwin.

Start watching the film at 1:27:00 for the segment that focuses on eugenics most specifically.

Another great examination of this topic can be found in the article below:

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Eugenics, Racism and Population Control

by Lien Oz

For over 200 years, an elite core of powerful global leaders and grossly affluent individuals and foundations, have promulgated the fear of over-population. They have persisted with devious schemes to control the earths population.

Historically this onslaught finds its starting pointing in the essay "Principle of Population" written in 1798 by Thomas Malthus. His thesis was that human population growth would outpace the earths capacity to feed the growing mass of humanity. Malthus ideas captured the attention of Charles Darwin and coloured his evolutionary theory of natural selection. This is reflected in the extended title of Darwins document"Origin of the Species by Means of Natural Selection and the Preservation of Favoured Races in the Struggle for Life." Darwins cousin Francis Galton however, went further. He introduced the idea of good and bad genes- respectively eugenic V digenic; the idea of good births or eugenics had arrived.

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You can read the rest of the article here:

http://www.albatrus.org/english/lie...rnment/eugenics_racism_population_control.htm

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The reality is that wherever darwinism has been generally accepted as a guiding principle of society, the result has been massive death and destruction of "undesirable" segments of the population:

Germany under Hitler: Over 6 million dead

Russia under Stalin: Over 50 million dead

China under Mao: Over 60 million dead (and now China has a one child policy, forced abortion and mobile execution vans....what a wonderful result of atheism!)

The United States: Over 50 million dead babies by abortion since 1973

If you are a Darwinist, the reality is that you are a pawn of the New World Order, and you are helping promote their Eugenics nightmare that they believe in so dearly.

There IS hope. If you are a Darwinist, you can escape your nightmare and find hope in Christ:

http://www.fourspirituallaws.org/laws/english/flash/

gamespotter10 · Oct 30, 2007

MandM said:
Have you all seen Endgame by Alex Jones yet?

You can see it right here:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?d...start=10&num=10&so=0&type=t100_all&plindex=11

This film does an amazing job of tracing the development of eugenics from the sick philosophies of Malthus and Darwin.

Start watching the film at 1:27:00 for the segment that focuses on eugenics most specifically.

Another great examination of this topic can be found in the article below:

-----

Eugenics, Racism and Population Control

by Lien Oz

For over 200 years, an elite core of powerful global leaders and grossly affluent individuals and foundations, have promulgated the fear of over-population. They have persisted with devious schemes to control the earths population.

Historically this onslaught finds its starting pointing in the essay "Principle of Population" written in 1798 by Thomas Malthus. His thesis was that human population growth would outpace the earths capacity to feed the growing mass of humanity. Malthus ideas captured the attention of Charles Darwin and coloured his evolutionary theory of natural selection. This is reflected in the extended title of Darwins document"Origin of the Species by Means of Natural Selection and the Preservation of Favoured Races in the Struggle for Life." Darwins cousin Francis Galton however, went further. He introduced the idea of good and bad genes- respectively eugenic V digenic; the idea of good births or eugenics had arrived.

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You can read the rest of the article here:

http://www.albatrus.org/english/lie...rnment/eugenics_racism_population_control.htm

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The reality is that wherever darwinism has been generally accepted as a guiding principle of society, the result has been massive death and destruction of "undesirable" segments of the population:

Germany under Hitler: Over 6 million dead

Russia under Stalin: Over 50 million dead

China under Mao: Over 60 million dead (and now China has a one child policy, forced abortion and mobile execution vans....what a wonderful result of atheism!)

The United States: Over 50 million dead babies by abortion since 1973

If you are a Darwinist, the reality is that you are a pawn of the New World Order, and you are helping promote their Eugenics nightmare that they believe in so dearly.

There IS hope. If you are a Darwinist, you can escape your nightmare and find hope in Christ:

http://www.fourspirituallaws.org/laws/english/flash/

darwinism =/= theory of evolution by means of natural selection

Split Rock · Oct 30, 2007

I am through with you MandM.

You are a Troll.

Bye Bye *ignore*

RichardT · Oct 30, 2007

Split Rock said:
I am through with you MandM.

You are a Troll.

Bye Bye *ignore*

I don't think he's a troll. By that standard, did you ignore me as well?

Dal M. · Oct 30, 2007

MandM said:
This is reflected in the extended title of Darwins document"Origin of the Species by Means of Natural Selection and the Preservation of Favoured Races in the Struggle for Life."

Strike 1: The "races" described in the title are breeding populations, not analogous to human races (which don't exist in any meaningful biological sense).

Russia under Stalin: Over 50 million dead

Strike 2: The Soviets held to Lysenkoism - a form of Lamarckian evolution - rather than Darwin's theory of natural selection, and did so for political reasons; natural selection was seen as too bourgeois and elitist.

There IS hope. If you are a Darwinist, you can escape your nightmare and find hope in Christ:

Strike 3: As poor a job as you've done explaining why the theory of evolution is responsible for more than a hundred years' worth of social ills, you've done an even worse job explaining why that means the theory is wrong.

Suppose Hitler did decide to kill Jews because he thought the theory of evolution required him to. How would that invalidate the evidence of shared ancestry between apes and humans?

MandM · Oct 30, 2007

Split Rock said:
I am through with you MandM.

You are a Troll.

Bye Bye *ignore*

No I am not a troll.

Yes, this evidence is too much for you to handle so you will likely run away.

It is time to face the TRUTH.

Peach81 · Oct 30, 2007

MandM said:
Eugenics, Racism and Population Control

That's enough!

We get it. You don't like the theory of evolution because it interferes with your blessed creation beliefs. Fine, but who are you to scream racism to justify your stubborn preference for mythology over science?

Pete Harcoff · Oct 30, 2007

MandM said:
If you are a Darwinist, the reality is that you are a pawn of the New World Order, and you are helping promote their Eugenics nightmare that they believe in so dearly.

There IS hope. If you are a Darwinist, you can escape your nightmare and find hope in Christ:

Does your religion come with free tinfoil hats?

gamespotter10 · Oct 30, 2007

MandM said:
Have you all seen Endgame by Alex Jones yet?

You can see it right here:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?d...start=10&num=10&so=0&type=t100_all&plindex=11

This film does an amazing job of tracing the development of eugenics from the sick philosophies of Malthus and Darwin.

Start watching the film at 1:27:00 for the segment that focuses on eugenics most specifically.

Another great examination of this topic can be found in the article below:

-----

Eugenics, Racism and Population Control

by Lien Oz

For over 200 years, an elite core of powerful global leaders and grossly affluent individuals and foundations, have promulgated the fear of over-population. They have persisted with devious schemes to control the earths population.

Historically this onslaught finds its starting pointing in the essay "Principle of Population" written in 1798 by Thomas Malthus. His thesis was that human population growth would outpace the earths capacity to feed the growing mass of humanity. Malthus ideas captured the attention of Charles Darwin and coloured his evolutionary theory of natural selection. This is reflected in the extended title of Darwins document"Origin of the Species by Means of Natural Selection and the Preservation of Favoured Races in the Struggle for Life." Darwins cousin Francis Galton however, went further. He introduced the idea of good and bad genes- respectively eugenic V digenic; the idea of good births or eugenics had arrived.

-----

You can read the rest of the article here:

http://www.albatrus.org/english/lie...rnment/eugenics_racism_population_control.htm

-----

The reality is that wherever darwinism has been generally accepted as a guiding principle of society, the result has been massive death and destruction of "undesirable" segments of the population:

Germany under Hitler: Over 6 million dead

Russia under Stalin: Over 50 million dead

China under Mao: Over 60 million dead (and now China has a one child policy, forced abortion and mobile execution vans....what a wonderful result of atheism!)

The United States: Over 50 million dead babies by abortion since 1973

If you are a Darwinist, the reality is that you are a pawn of the New World Order, and you are helping promote their Eugenics nightmare that they believe in so dearly.

There IS hope. If you are a Darwinist, you can escape your nightmare and find hope in Christ:

http://www.fourspirituallaws.org/laws/english/flash/

oh, and by the way, YOUR religion is even more racist because according to your interpretation of the torah, africans are the sons of ham, who was condemned to be a slave forever

MandM · Oct 30, 2007

Once again we see the exact same pattern by the atheists when they know they have been outclassed:

#1) Totally ignore what is posted in the original post and refuse to discuss the facts.

#2) Insult the OP, creationists in general, and anyone else they can possibly think of to insult.

When you take such an approach, you simply begin to lose all credibility.

Lord Emsworth · Oct 30, 2007

Racism and eugenics fall perfectly into the confines of the Creationist "variation within kinds."

godlessagnostic · Oct 30, 2007

RichardT said:
I don't think he's a troll. By that standard, did you ignore me as well?

I don't think people take you seriously RichardT because your not really serious. Everyone of your posts has an underlying comic element. Hitler was a Roman Catholic and supported by the pope. Stalin was worshipped like a god they were not atheists. Mao in China did not kill people because he was an atheist, he killed because he had good intention for the rest of the people. Last and least of your argument, 50 million dead babies, 50 million women's lives saved. And many, many more saved by birth control which is what abortion is. This has nothing to do with evolution, this should be in Ethics and Morals.

MandM · Oct 30, 2007

godlessagnostic said:
I don't think people take you seriously RichardT because your not really serious. Everyone of your posts has an underlying comic element. Hitler was a Roman Catholic and supported by the pope. Stalin was worshipped like a god they were not atheists. Mao in China did not kill people because he was an atheist, he killed because he had good intention for the rest of the people. Last and least of your argument, 50 million dead babies, 50 million women's lives saved. And many, many more saved by birth control which is what abortion is. This has nothing to do with evolution, this should be in Ethics and Morals.

For 18 years old you are sorely lacking in knowledge, and the degree to which you have been brainwashed actuallys stuns me.

I don't even know where to start.

Let's start with this:

NO, the people of the U.S.S.R. did not worship Stalin like he was a god.

They were hardcore atheists, and evolution was one of the foundation stones of their education system.

sbvera13 · Oct 30, 2007

MandM said:
Once again we see the exact same pattern by the atheists when they know they have been outclassed:

#1) Totally ignore what is posted in the original post and refuse to discuss the facts.

Why should we do anything else? The point in your orignal post has been refuted a thousand times. We have seen it before, discussed it before, debunked it before. If you are too lazy to use the search function to find that out then don't blame us for not taking you seriously.

#2) Insult the OP, creationists in general, and anyone else they can possibly think of to insult.

I admit it's not a very good behavioral standard, but both sides do it so trying to discredit evolutionists because of it will discredit just as many creationists at the same time. Better to ignore it and back away or it will come back to you.

When you take such an approach, you simply begin to lose all credibility.

If you want to discuss credibility try taking a position that has not been refuted so many time before. Since you obviously missed it, here it is for you.

The application of "survival of the fittest" principles to society is called Social Darwinism. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_darwinism

Social Darwinism is not in any way linked to the biological theory of evolution. Therefore, any arguments against Social Darwinism are merely against Social Darwinism and do not affect the theory of evolution in any way.

MandM · Oct 30, 2007

In addition, it amazes me how inconsiderate people are.

This is how you should approach a thread like this:

1) Watch the film and read the article in the original post

2) THEN post or move along to another thread

Instead, people don't look at anything, and yet they feel free to post whatever nonsense comes into their head on the topic without even looking at the subject matter

MoonLancer · Oct 30, 2007

MandM said:
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You should really finish the threads you start. This thread is just going to end up like all your others.

sbvera13 · Oct 30, 2007

MandM said:
In addition, it amazes me how inconsiderate people are.

This is how you should approach a thread like this:

1) Watch the film and read the article in the original post

2) THEN post or move along to another thread

Instead, people don't look at anything, and yet they feel free to post whatever nonsense comes into their head on the topic without even looking at the subject matter

Reading the article or watching the video is unnessecary in this case. You are attempting to discredit the theory of evolution by linking it with Social Darwinism. Social Darwinism is evil I admit it. However it is not linked to the biological theory of evolution. It doesn't matter how evil you prove it is, it cannot have any bearing on the scientific reality of evolution.

MoonLancer · Oct 30, 2007

sbvera13 said:
Reading the article or watching the video is unnessecary in this case. You are attempting to discredit the theory of evolution by linking it with Social Darwinism. Social Darwinism is evil I admit it. However it is not linked to the biological theory of evolution. It doesn't matter how evil you prove it is, it cannot have any bearing on the scientific reality of evolution.

basically, M&M your whole argument is a fallacy because it does not address evolution as a scientific theory.

question? has anyone ever committed genocide because they were inspired by Darwin? No, Hitler may be a fringe case, but his reason was that he felt the Arian race was ordained by god. That they were superior and their superiority gave them the power to do what they did. basically "might makes right".

M&M, your threads hold little credibility considering your past posts. People don't want to read your trash anymore, so they don't. sure, blame it on us, but you should really clean up your act if you want people to give you a second thought, and read your links.

corvus_corax · Oct 30, 2007

MandM said:
.For over 200 years, an ‘elite’ core of powerful ‘global’ leaders and grossly affluent individuals and foundations, have promulgated the fear of over-population. They have persisted with devious schemes to control the earth’s population.

6 billion and climbing fast....they seem to be failing in their "devious schemes".

MandM said:
.Malthus’ ideas captured the attention of Charles Darwin and coloured his evolutionary theory of natural selection. This is reflected in the extended title of Darwin’s document–"Origin of the Species– by Means of Natural Selection and the Preservation of Favoured Races in the Struggle for Life."

This is a complete misrepresentation of the meaning of the title of the work. And, quite possibly, a purposeful twisting of the meaning as well

MandM said:
.Darwin’s cousin Francis Galton however, went further. He introduced the idea of good and bad genes- respectively eugenic V digenic; the idea of good births or ‘eugenics’ had arrived.

Please explain how Francis Galton had any direct influence on the Scientific model of evolution through common descent.

MandM said:
.The reality is that wherever darwinism has been generally accepted as a guiding principle of society, the result has been massive death and destruction of "undesirable" segments of the population:

Actually, that is not "the reality" of the situation. As a matter of fact, it is a blatant falsehood

MandM said:
.Germany under Hitler: Over 6 million dead

Correction- Germany under Hitler who claimed to be doing the work of God and was even backed by the Catholic Church: Over 6 million dead.

MandM said:
.Russia under Stalin: Over 50 million dead

Correction-
Russia under Stalin who rejected Darwinian evolution. Russia under a regime that upheld Lysenkoist evolution: Over 50 million dead

MandM said:
China under Mao: Over 60 million dead (and now China has a one child policy, forced abortion and mobile execution vans....what a wonderful result of atheism!)

Stop right there. Did you see what you just did?
Did you see it?
I'll quote you again-

MandM said:
what a wonderful result of atheism

See? You have gone from debating evolution to debating atheism. You have pulled a blatant and obvious bait-and-switch.
As a theist (and one who accepts Evolutionary Theory), I say Shame....Shame on you for such a deceptive tactic (and shame on you for conflating evolutionary theory with atheism).

MandM said:
The United States: Over 50 million dead babies by abortion since 1973

I'll correct you once again-
The United States, where 43% of citizens accept Creationism, and fully 76% of the population is Christian: 50 million dead babies by abortion since 1973. That's right, in a predominately CHRISTIAN society- 53 million abortions.

MandM said:
If you are a Darwinist, the reality is that you are a pawn of the New World Order

Please provide evidence that the NWO actually exists

MandM said:
and you are helping promote their Eugenics nightmare that they believe in so dearly.

After you provide objective empirical evidence for the NWO, then perhaps you can provide the same kind of evidence for a eugenics strategy that this supposed NWO is working on.

Im only asking you for what you claim to be providing- actual evidence, not mere assertion.

AND PLEASE NOTE- I have not ignored the assertions made in your post. I directly addressed them and demonstrated many of them to completely incorrect. And I have not insulted you. Demonstrating you wrong is not an insult. Neither have I hand waved away your assertions- I directly addressed them and demonstrated them to be wrong.

So now, the ball's in your court. Please provide objective empirical evidence (instead of mere assertions) in your response to me.

Thanks in advance

PeterMaclellan · Oct 30, 2007

MandM is completely right, social darwinism sucks.

Now MandM, what exactly does this have to do with biological evolution?

Darwinism = Eugenics And Racism

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