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Darwin and Hitler

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From an Interview published by Zenit 2/7/05:

http://www.zenit.org/english/

Q: What are the conceptual and organizational origins of the racial theories and anti-Semitism which spread in Europe in the '30s and '40s?

Macrobio: To understand the conceptual roots of racism as a racial theory one must go back to the second half of the 19th century in England.

In that nation, in fact, for some 30 years, from 1853 to 1883, some essays were published that established the theoretical basis for the birth of racial laws. I am referring to works whose titles and authors do not require special comments: Joseph Arthur Gobineau in 1853-55 writes "Essai sur l'inégalité des races humaines"; Charles Darwin in 1859 publishes "The Origin of Species," from which stemmed the theory of the survival of the fittest.

In 1862, Herbert Spencer applied the Darwinian theory to society in the essay "First Principles," giving birth to the movement of social Darwinism. In 1869, Francis Galton took up the works of Darwin, Spencer and Gobineau in "Hereditary Genius: An Inquiry
into Its Laws and Consequences." Only in 1871, in line with the just-mentioned studies, Darwin decided to apply his evolutionist theory to man in the volume "The Descent of Man."

Finally, in 1883, Galton published "Inquiries into Human Faculty and Its Development," in which, for the first time, the term "eugenics" appeared. All these works introduce the concept according to which life is for the fittest, while the weakest succumb.

The definition of "fit" or "weak" is vague and by its nature requires specification. The problem, to which the racial laws would give their tragic solution, is the following: Who can say who is fit -- and therefore deserves to live -- and who is weak -- and therefore, by nature, is destined to succumb)?

The climate at the end of the 19th century in which these theories developed found an appropriate answer in medical science: The canons of worth were indicated by the physiognomic sciences and, more generally, by the anthropometric. In other words, there was an attempt to justify scientifically an ideological assumption, namely, that there are
inferior and superior races.

According to these theories, Jews were considered an inferior race. And even though the eugenic theories considered a large category of people inferior, a virulent form of anti-Semitism developed throughout the world.
 

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PeterPaul said:
Good post, Michelina. I just ordered "From Darwin To Hitler" by Wiekart. Can't wait to read it (after I read Architects of the Culture of Death I decided to order this one).

Hi, PP! :wave: Great to see you!

Darwin's influence in western culture goes way beyond the obvious.

BTW, I love your blog! Excellent stuff, thru and thru! When I can write something worthy of such a site, I'll post it.
 
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Please do not take science and try to make it look like it is to blame for racism.

Social Darwinism was made up by people who thought that black people and the like were inferior. Evolution gave them an excuse.

This does not equate to evolution being wrong or evil. It's like saying the Church is evil for all the abuses of the past.
 
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I guess birds of a feather flock together! Oh, wait, isn't that kind of darwinian? At any rate, it's certainly no surprise that these two have a lot in common. I don't mean to imply that Darwin is evil or anything, but it never ceases to amaze me that those who seek to marginalize God's creation (especially His crowning Glory...man) end up wreaking such havoc on the world.
 
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Anti-semitism was present in Germany long before Hitler. Martin Luther and operatic composer Richard Wagner (fave of Hitler for the big, over-the-top dramatic sound) big examples of that. Wagner's life crosses over the time frame discussed, but I believe his views preceded the publishing of Origin of the Species and he died in the 1880's.

Here is a bit from a page on Meyerbeer and Wagner on his views that preceded Darwin:

http://www.meyerbeer.com/meyerbee.htm
While Richard Wagner lived decades before the birth of Nazism, his influence on the National Socialist movement and especially on its leader was enormous. In a tractate, Das Judenthum in der Musik, first published in 1850 under a pseudonym in the Neue Zeitschrift für Musik, Wagner wrote that Jewish music is bereft of all expression, characterized by coldness and indifference, triviality and nonsense. The Jew, he claimed, has no true passion to impel him to artistic creation. The Jewish composer, according to Wagner, makes a confused heap of the forms and styles of all ages and masters. To admit a Jew into the world of art results in pernicious consequences. In Deutsche Kunst und Deutsche Politik, Wagner spoke of the "harmful influence of Jewry on the morality of the nation," adding that the subversive power of Jewry stands in contrast to the German psyche.


It appears to me the issues here, the antiSemitism of seeing Jewish people as inferior, far preceded Darwin because Wagner and Luther both held those veiws. Though some of the ideas of Darwin's theory of evolution might have been twisted by people in the same way the Bible can be twisted for a purpose.

I also don't see how Darwin and evolution can be totally seperated. Even in Origin Darwin still gives credence to the Creator and I'm not sure he isn't being blamed for things that were already in place and opportunists latched onto the things in his theory they felt fit the antiSemitic views that they had already long-believed.

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Dark_Lite said:
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Please do not take science and try to make it look like it is to blame for racism.

Social Darwinism was made up by people who thought that black people and the like were inferior. Evolution gave them an excuse.

This does not equate to evolution being wrong or evil. It's like saying the Church is evil for all the abuses of the past.

Have you read any Darwin or Galton? I doubt you would be saying that if you did.
 
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PeterPaul said:
Have you read any Darwin or Galton? I doubt you would be saying that if you did.

Regardless of what Darwin believed it still does not offer any sort evidence against evolution.

Darwin's version has been basically trashed at this point anyway.

New discoveries have caused the theory to become refined.
 
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Michelina said:
Anti-Semitism is much older than Darwin. But Darwin provided the "scientific" basis for Hitler's formulation of his racial theories. That is, in fact, what happenned.

More accurately, it gave a pseudo-scientific excuse for certain acts, but that would require distortion of what Darwin had actually said. In the same way, one can argue that Mendel came up with the basis for eugenics.
 
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Michelina said:
Anti-Semitism is much older than Darwin. But Darwin provided the "scientific" basis for Hitler's formulation of his racial theories. That is, in fact, what happenned.
More accurately, it gave a pseudo-scientific excuse for certain acts, but that would require distortion of what Darwin had actually said. In the same way, one can argue that Mendel came up with the basis for eugenics.
I put quotation marks around "scientific".

Good Night.
 
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I agree with the opening post, considering the real title of Darwin's book was "The Origin of Species By Means of Natural Selection or the Preservation of Favoured Races in the Struggle for Life."

Let's also not forget the religious climate in Germany was heavily influenced by Luther who wrote some pretty nasty things about the Jews.
 
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