Dark matter, dark energy, and the spiritual realm

[tonychanyt]

CERN:

Unlike normal matter, dark matter does not interact with the electromagnetic force. This means it does not absorb, reflect or emit light.​

Researchers have been able to infer the existence of dark matter only from the gravitational effect it seems to have on visible matter.​

While dark matter explains the hidden gravitational force that pulls a galaxy in place, a seemingly opposite anti-gravitational force is pushing galaxies away from one another: dark energy.

NASA:

One explanation for dark energy is that it is a property of space. ... As more space comes into existence, more of this energy-of-space would appear. As a result, this form of energy would cause the universe to expand faster and faster.​

NASA:

It turns out that roughly 68% of the universe is dark energy. Dark matter makes up about 27%. The rest - everything on Earth, everything ever observed with all of our instruments, all normal matter - adds up to less than 5% of the universe.​

Over the course of a human lifetime, the total amount of dark matter to pass through your body doesn't even add up to one gram.

Genesis 1:

1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.​

2 Now the earth was formless and void,​

Was this the invisible dark earth existing in the spiritual realm?

and darkness was over the surface of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the surface of the waters.​

Was the spiritual realm composed of dark matter and energy?

3 And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light.​

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Now came the ordinary matter and energy. The physical visible universe began.

4 God saw that the light was good. And God separated the light from the darkness​

as if darkness was physical like light.

Isaiah 45:

7a I form light and create darkness.​

The invisible became visible, Hebrews 11:

3 By faith we understand that the universe was formed at God’s command, so that what is seen was not made out of what was visible.​

Colossians 1:

15 The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. 16 For in Him all things were created, things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities. All things were created through Him and for Him. 17 He is before all things, and in Him all things hold together.​

All things visible and invisible hold together. There is some kind of bonding force.

Berean Study Bible Job 10:

22 to a land of utter darkness, of deep shadow and disorder, where even the light is like darkness.​

Physically, there are interactions between dark forces and normal (Newtonian) forces.

See also What were the waters in Genesis 1:1?.

 

[Semper-Fi]

CERN:

Unlike normal matter, dark matter does not interact with the electromagnetic force. This means it does not absorb, reflect or emit light.​

Researchers have been able to infer the existence of dark matter only from the gravitational effect it seems to have on visible matter.​

While dark matter explains the hidden gravitational force that pulls a galaxy in place, a seemingly opposite anti-gravitational force is pushing galaxies away from one another: dark energy.

Most experts consider that dark matter is ubiquitous in the
universe and has strongly affected its structure and evolution.

God spoke to Job about the universe, He asked

“Where is the way where light dwelleth? and as for darkness,
where is the place thereof, that thou shouldest take it to the
bound thereof, and that thou shouldest know the paths to the
house thereof?” (Job 38:19-20).

The Living Bible “[T]ell me about the darkness. Where does it
come from? Can you find its boundaries, or go to its source?”

Romans 1:20 “the invisible things of him from the creation of the
world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made”

The visible universe shows that there must be this invisible
matter or force holding it all together.

Colossians 1:16-17 “By him all things consist” or are held together.

Perhaps “dark matter” is actually the invisible
power of God holding the universe together.

Hebrews 1:3 says that Jesus Christ is “upholding the universe by his
word of power”. Upholding: a Greek word meaning to bear or carry.

God says in Psalm 75:3 that “When the earth totters, and all its
inhabitants, it is I who keep steady its pillars”

God holds together and sustains the universe by His power. Whatever
“dark matter” actually is, we know that God created all things—both
visible and invisible—and that He is the Sustainer of the universe.

 

[Semper-Fi]

Genesis 1:

1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.​

2 Now the earth was formless and void,​

Was this the invisible dark earth existing in the spiritual realm?

>and darkness was over the surface of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the surface of the waters.​

Was the spiritual realm composed of dark matter and energy?

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No I do not believe so. God [A spirit], made the Angeles [spirit beings],
I believe they where before the Heavens and earth was made in Gen 1:1.

the Heavens and earth was made Gen 1:1. long long ago

Time gap, no idea how long

The earth [became] formless and void. long long ago

And the earth wasH1961 without
form,H8414 and void;H922 and darknessH2822

was H1961
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ha^ya^h
haw-yaw'
A primitive root (compare H1933); to exist, that is, be or become, come to pass (always emphatic, and not a mere copula or auxiliary): - beacon, X altogether, be (-come, accomplished, committed, like), break, cause, come (to pass), continue, do, faint, fall, + follow, happen, X have, last, pertain, quit (one-) self, require, X use.

without form H8414
?????
to^hu^
to'-hoo
From an unused root meaning to lie waste; a desolation (of surface), that is, desert; figuratively a worthless thing; adverbially in vain: - confusion, empty place, without form, nothing, (thing of) nought, vain, vanity, waste, wilderness.

H922
?????
bo^hu^
bo'-hoo
From an unused root (meaning to be empty); a vacuity, that is, (superficially) an undistinguishable ruin: - emptiness, void.

H2822
????
cho^shek
kho-shek'
From H2821; the dark; hence (literally) darkness; figuratively misery, destruction, death, ignorance, sorrow, wickedness: - dark (-ness), night, obscurity.

Satan's rebellion against God caused destruction universe wide.
We know asteroids hit the earth killing dinosaurs. The world
would have been covered in water. Isaiah 14:13, 14,Luke 10:18.

Time gap no idea how long

"..And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters."

Psalm 104:30 (KJV)
Thou sendest forth thy spirit, they are created:
And thou renewest the face of the earth.

God turned on the lights in the heavens for us, and other
things in the first 6 days of this renewed/creation period.

God renewed the earth, suited for warm blooded animals,
floral and fauna suited for mankind, not large reptiles.
Animals that man could have dominion over and control.

Heb 12:25-27 declaring that God once more will shake
not the earth only, but also heaven.

Scripture like Isaiah 2, Isaiah 13, and Haggai 2 about the
future when God will cause this earth to tremble in removing
the 'elements' of man's works off it (2 Pet.3:10).

Why the phrase "once more" though, which points to at least
one previous time that He shook the earth to that level.

The creation of Romans 8 cannot be desiring and hoping for
a release from bondage if it had not at first been perfect
and not in bondage sometime before.

Satan had already been cast down, and had already rebelled.
by the time of Adam and Eve; his already being in his role
of tempter against Eve in God's Garden "that old serpent".

Mankind is under 6000 years old.

 

[tonychanyt]

No I do not believe so. God [A spirit], made the Angeles [spirit beings],
I believe they where before the Heavens and earth was made in Gen 1:1.

Can you explain the above logically step by step?

 

[Semper-Fi]

Can you explain the above logically step by step?

1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word
was with God, and the Word was God.

Job 38:7 When the morning stars sang together,
And all the sons of God shouted for joy?

The angeles shouted for joy when the earth was made.

Genesis 1:2 without form H8414
figuratively a worthless thing; adverbially in vain

Isaiah 45:18 (KJV)
For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens;
God himself that formed the earth and made it; he
hath established it, he created it not in vain,
he formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD ;
and there is none else.

 

[tonychanyt]

The angeles shouted for joy when the earth was made.

Right, the angels were made before the earth was made. What makes you think that they were created before the heavens were made?

 

[Semper-Fi]

Right, the angels were made before the earth was made. What makes you think that they were created before the heavens were made?

Genesis 1:
1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.

This says both earth and heaven was created at the same time.

 

[tonychanyt]

Genesis 1:
1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.

This says both earth and heaven was created at the same time.

and what time was that?

 

[Semper-Fi]

and what time was that?

Only God and the Angeles who was there would know that.
The bible does not say how long ago this was. It just says
" in the beginning"

Scientists’ best estimate is that the universe is about 13.8 billion years old.
According to the bible generations of man on earth is under 6000 years.

 

[tonychanyt]

Only God and the Angeles who was there would know that.
The bible does not say how long ago this was. It just says
" in the beginning"

So heavens and earth were created before Day 1?

 

[Semper-Fi]

So heavens and earth were created before Day 1?

Thats what I layed out in post #3.

How did the The earth [became] formless and void.?
Same word used where Lots wife [became] a pillar of salt.

Did God create it like that? no Isaiah 45:18
When did God " renewest the face of the earth" then ?

When did satan fall from heaven?
Gods creation was perfict before Satans fall.

 

[tonychanyt]

Thats what I layed out in post #3.

How did the The earth [became] formless and void.?
Same word used where Lots wife [became] a pillar of salt.

Did God create it like that? no Isaiah 45:18
When did God " renewest the face of the earth" then ?

See Dark earth? and follow up there

When did satan fall from heaven?
Gods creation was perfict before Satans fall.

See The changing role of satan [lowercase]

 

[3 Resurrections]

No I do not believe so. God [A spirit], made the Angeles [spirit beings],
I believe they where before the Heavens and earth was made in Gen 1:1.

the Heavens and earth was made Gen 1:1. long long ago

Time gap, no idea how long

The earth [became] formless and void. long long ago

And the earth wasH1961 without
form,H8414 and void;H922 and darknessH2822

was H1961
???
ha^ya^h
haw-yaw'
A primitive root (compare H1933); to exist, that is, be or become, come to pass (always emphatic, and not a mere copula or auxiliary): - beacon, X altogether, be (-come, accomplished, committed, like), break, cause, come (to pass), continue, do, faint, fall, + follow, happen, X have, last, pertain, quit (one-) self, require, X use.

Yes, that little word "became" indicates that this globe has been "recycled" by God, so to speak, and made fit for humankind to dwell upon it during creation week. This explains the great disparity between the extremely-ancient age of the elements of this earth and scripture's record of mankind's existence lasting less than 6,000 years to date.