ok.. haha
ill try one more time...
It is when we find ourselves in situations of isolation beyond our control that I am speaking of. Those situations are God-imposed.
i agree.
Of course we prefer the fellowship of others. Sometimes even that is taken away.
i agree.
I was referring to why this may happen. It is during these times that God takes us through a desert experience or His 'boot camp'.
i agree.
His 'boot' camp surely has a purpose to it.
i agree.
i fully agree with what your saying, and i think i really do understand what your saying, though maybe you believe im wrong about whatever it is im saying. but im really not disagreeing with anything your saying.
i may not be giving the expected result, but i do atleast agree with what your saying.
and all i am trying to say is that yes your right, but it is also dangerous for people to think these boot camp experiences are where they need to be for most of their time.
when God inspires it, amen its from the Lord and you need to see yourself through that valley, in my background people called them "wilderness experiences".
its just that when people begin to focus completely on the wilderness experiences and think thats the only place to be, to be close to God or in the will of God, then they are pulling off to one side in error even if its with good intentions.
i dont think thats what you were saying either, i just thought id say that.
becuase i think 80% of our time will not be made by God to be spent in the wilderness or in boot camp, but in the people.
does that make more sense?
kinda like angels and demons, they are real they are true, but thats all some christians ever focus on, the angels and the demons, not the gospel or the ministry or saving souls, no, they just want to see an angel or a demon or read books on angels and demons.... theyve taken one neccesary part of the gospel but magnified it to perverted proportions, and its how some of the strange teachings that everyone now laughs at, came about.
and this is sometimes done the same with boot camp experiences or wilderness experiences.
its just not all there is to the gospel, its not even the majority of the gospel, the majority of the gospel is people, God didnt die for miracles, or angels, or prayer, or boot camp experiences, or fasting, or anything except people....
God died for people... and people are the majority of the gospel.
those other things we need and well never make it without them, but people, the body of Christ is what God died for, and thats where we need to spend most of our time. thats the focus of the eyes of God.
and we cant be seperated from them for very long and still complete our purpose. thats why i say, yes boot camp experiences are real, and we need them, but there are some other things that come first, being in fellowship with the body and having an effect in the body and world around us is generally more important, and its where God will have you spend most of your time or focus.
this is when God disciplines us to teach us how to spend enough quality time alone with him, yet not take away from the precious moments we have to spend imparting seed into the rest of mankind through real fellowship.
"every man must decide whether he will walk in the light of creative altruism or the darkness of destructive selfishness. This the judgment. Lifes most persistent and urgent question is, what are you doing for others?"
Martin Luther King Jr.
im not in anyway saying you are in any of that kind of error,
im just hoping everyone knows that that kind of error exists.
well i hope that clears up how i dont disagree with anything your saying, just trying to add a few little things to the thread.
This is what I keep feeling...my life is in intensive training right now. Normal props are out of reach...but as I thought on this today...many new kinds of supports are here and have been all the way. He has not abandoned me nor would He abandon any of His own. 
