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Jesus is just answering their questions, I think Matthew 24:3 tells us those questions, which are,; when will this happen? what will be the sign of your coming and the end of the age?Where do you see that Jesus moved to a different subject?
I think Jesus wasn't just talking about the temple or the destruction of Jerusalem but also the sign of His coming and the end of the age Matthew 24:3Reasons why it's pretty hard not to conclude that he was talking about the destruction of Jerusalem.
1. He told them that not one stone would be left standing.
Jesus left the temple and was walking away when his disciples came up to him to call his attention to its buildings. 2 “Do you see all these things?” he asked. “Truly I tell you, not one stone here will be left on another; every one will be thrown down.”
So he's talking about the destruction of the very temple they were admiring to him. That's our context.
3 As Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately. “Tell us,” they said, “when will this happen, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?”
2. They're not asking about the end of the world. Jesus doesn't answer their question by changing the subject. The 'end of the age' is not the same thing as the end of the world. They know all about the resurrection on the 'last day.'
3. Jerusalem was destroyed and was surrounded by armies exactly as Jesus prophesied. The Christians of that time escaped because they were all warned by this prophecy and they left exactly when Vespasian's Army first encircled Jerusalem. Vespasian left, and Titus returned. Nobody got out after that and Jerusalem was made utterly desolate. Over a million Jews died and those who escaped holed up in Masada and then committed mass suicide. At the destruction of the temple, the Romans tore down the stones to the foundations because of the gold which had melted and run into the seams between the stones.
4. Jesus said that everything, all of what he had said, including his coming on the clouds would happen before that generation passed.
So everything in this passage points to the destruction of Jerusalem, the context of the question, the timing and the historical record. It's up to us to accept it as written, not whistle past the details, believing what some men say about this passage.
Thank you, but it should be a popular subject with Jews or the apostles who wrote the NT after AD70 if indeed people actually saw Christ coming in the clouds with power, should be well documented just as the destruction of Jerusalem is documented...Josephus - a Jewish historian that was an eye-witness recorded the events. Here is a link to an article that includes some of the writing of Josephus: https://www.thatancientfaith.uk/home/perma/1413631731/article/the-coming-of-jesus-the-olive.html
His books are Antiquities and Wars of the Jews.
I think Jesus wasn't just talking about the temple or the destruction of Jerusalem but also the sign of His coming and the end of the age Matthew 24:3
Thank you, but it should be a popular subject with Jews or the apostles who wrote the NT after AD70 if indeed people actually saw Christ coming in the clouds with power, should be well documented just as the destruction of Jerusalem is documented...
I think the generation up to His coming...But he says that even his coming on the clouds was going to happen before that generation passed. If you believe that he was talking about the end of the world, then he was actually trying to mislead them. That doesn't seem like a very honest thing to do for a man who said he WAS the truth.
Jesus also said this:I think the generation up to His coming...
Sorry don't get the first part of your question..When do we read about John the Baptist bringing down mountains?
In fact though, most of the new testament was written prior to AD 70.
Hello, the 12 disciples never reached to all towns of Israel in that time in proclaiming the good news...Jesus also said this:
Matthew 10:23 - When you are persecuted in one town, flee to the next. I tell you the truth, the Son of Man will come before you have reached all the towns of Israel.
Matthew 16:23 - And I tell you the truth, some standing here right now will not die before they see the Son of Man coming in his Kingdom.”
One word will explain hebrew9:15, Hebrews 9:26...etc this is called sanctification...our redemption and putting away of sins is a process a cleansing process...we will still stumble and fall but not beyond recovery but eventually at the end we overcome sin and the redemption of our bodies certain...
Sorry don't get the first part of your question..
How about those written after AD70 don't you think the church should hear about that kind of event it will be an event like no other...
His people still fall into sin 3.5 years after the cross, even the apostles ie Paul, Peter still have not obtained the fullness of Christ when they wrote their letters to the church...Philippians 3:12, Galatians 4:19, Galatians 2:11-13...And this is only possible because of the work of Christ at his 1st coming, which is what the 70 weeks of Daniel points to.
Christ is the reason our sins are put away when we come to Father in repentance. Christ is the reason our sins have been blotted out. Because of our sins, we were separated from the Father, but we are no longer separated from the Father because of Christ, who is interceding for us.
Do believe our sins are not fully forgiven until the resurrection?
His people still fall into sin 3.5 years after the cross, even the apostles ie Paul, Peter still have not obtained the fullness of Christ when they wrote their letters to the church...Philippians 3:12, Galatians 4:19, Galatians 2:11-13...
Yes, I agree Christ is the reason why our sins is put away, not only that but all promises the Father given to us is complete in Him...But there is no point of knowing all this but we still continue in our sins...there is a difference in saying the right thing and try and do them...
Daniel 9...is about Daniel’s people and their holy city...to accomplish all that God given to them to accomplish in 70 weeks...and God is the one who does the work in His people to make sure it will complete in the appointed time...
I believed those who are resurrected in the first resurrection are those whom sins are been forgiven both those in the grave and the ones who are alive at his coming....
Wait! "Given THEM to accomplish"? I think you were correct when you wrote "God is the one who does the work".Daniel 9...is about Daniel’s people and their holy city...to accomplish all that God given to them to accomplish in 70 weeks...and God is the one who does the work in His people to make sure it will complete in the appointed time...
Exactly. I happen to believe He accomplished all and right on time.And if it didn't happen in 490 years, then God wasn't telling the truth when he said it would.
Wait! "Given THEM to accomplish"? I think you were correct when you wrote "God is the one who does the work".
Exactly. I happen to believe He accomplished all and right on time.
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Hello, there is a big difference in John1:23 and Luke 21:27...A voice is calling,
“Clear the way for the Lord in the wilderness;
Make smooth in the desert a highway for our God.
4 “Let every valley be lifted up,
And every mountain and hill be made low;
And let the rough ground become a plain,
And the rugged terrain a broad valley;
5 [e]Then the glory of the Lord will be revealed,
And all flesh will see it together;
For the mouth of the Lord has spoken.”
That's the prophecy John said he was fulfilling. So if you argue that because things literally 'didn't happen' rather than figuratively, then you must not believe that John the baptist was really fulfillment of prophecy because he didn't chop down any literal mountains or make literal highways.
It WAS an event like no other and it happened within the generation he specified. Some of those standing there saw the city destroyed.
He used the near demonstrative pronoun "this" in reference to the generation of that time. If he was talking about some esoteric "church generation" then you also have to accept that some of the apostles are still alive today.
To those who believe that the 490 weeks prophecy has already fulfilled are those who made God as not telling the truth...And if it didn't happen in 490 years, then God wasn't telling the truth when he said it would.
The first resurrection is baptism. See Romans 6.
Daniel 9:24Wait! "Given THEM to accomplish"? I think you were correct when you wrote "God is the one who does the work".
Exactly. I happen to believe He accomplished all and right on time.
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Hello, there is a big difference in John1:23 and Luke 21:27...
First, Only John the Baptist knows apart from Christ that Isaiah is spoken about Him in Isaiah 40:3....no one else knows
But,
Luke 21:27...said...." they will see the Son of Man coming in clouds with great power and glory...
Many people witness the event of the coming of Christ Not one...
Second, no one ever physically see John lift any valleys or made mountains and hills low...so it's symbolic
Luke 21:27...is a literal event..
Third, Jesus said He will come back to receive us to Himself not come back and go back then come back.... John 14:3.." And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back to take you to be with me that you also may be where I am...
And if He already came in AD70 then we are All miss out, He will not come back again...
Daniel 9:24
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