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So how does that mean I don't believe in God? And how does that make someone unregenerate?
well it's a question of authority. if God and the bible are my authority then i will believe them and live by them. they would say you are unregenerate. belief in a god and belief in the God are two different things.
 
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well it's a question of authority. if God and the bible are my authority then i will believe them and live by them. they would say you are unregenerate. belief in a god and belief in the God are two different things.
So if I believe in your God and believe in another God as well.....it would make me an unregenerate/dissolute? I am sorry but I am not going to believe in such a thing. You can feel happy calling others whatever you want and maligning them.....it doesn't make any difference to me. Period!
 
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it's pretty simple. if you do not believe in the God of scripture or you try to add other gods then yes you are unregenerate. that's fact. you may not like it but it's true. how can you claim to believe in my God yet you do not know what it taught about my God through scripture? it's not possible
 
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So if I believe in your God and believe in another God as well.....it would make me an unregenerate/dissolute? I am sorry but I am not going to believe in such a thing. You can feel happy calling others whatever you want and maligning them.....it doesn't make any difference to me. Period!
I don't think he intended to malign you, but he's talking about a theological concept which may or may not be true in terms of intellectual assent. I'm not sure how appropriate it is to bring that into the discussion, though. :scratch:
 
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I don't think he intended to malign you, but he's talking about a theological concept which may or may not be true in terms of intellectual assent. I'm not sure how appropriate it is to bring that into the discussion, though. :scratch:
it may not be, but as a christian should i not inform her what her prayers mean if there is no God behind those prayers? i think paul would have.
 
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it may not be, but as a christian should i not inform her what her prayers mean if there is no God behind those prayers? i think paul would have.
By all means you should. But there are easier and more clear ways of doing it that don't imply alienating your potential audience from the outset.
 
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I, in million years is not going to believe that people can be called unregenerate on this basis. A person who is not bad at will no matter whatever God he believes in, can't be an unregenerate. And according to your criteria, people who do not follow a particular God at all are unregenerate, it sounds very shallow no offence.

And Like I said, You can feel happy calling others whatever you want and maligning them.....it doesn't make any difference to me. Period!

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/unregenerate
 
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I don't think he intended to malign you, but he's talking about a theological concept which may or may not be true in terms of intellectual assent. I'm not sure how appropriate it is to bring that into the discussion, though. :scratch:
He was calling me an unregenerate and even though it is a theological concept he put it in very maligning way.
 
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By all means you should. But there are easier and more clear ways of doing it that don't imply alienating your potential audience from the outset.
He indirectly means that since I am not a Christian I have no right to pray to his God and I don't know how many of you here think this way.
 
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He was calling me an unregenerate and even though it is a theological concept he put it in very maligning way.
By respect to it's nature in theology, it can be rather ambiguous when people use it in daily conversation. :scratch:

In Christian terminology, an unregenerate person can still be morally good, but be unregenerate in terms of salvation. That is to say, their character is still extensively depraved (as opposed to intensively). It's a tricky thing and I'd rather not get into a discussion on this thread for fear of both making things worse (possibly), and derailing the thread. :sorry:
 
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He indirectly means that since I am not a Christian I have no right to pray to his God and I don't know how many of you here think this way.
6 But without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he who comes to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him.
(Hebrews 11)

I wouldn't question that you believe that He is, or that you seek Him, since you did come here asking about prayer. :)
 
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6 But without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he who comes to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him.
(Hebrews 11)

I wouldn't question that you believe that He is, or that you seek Him, since you did come here asking about prayer. :)
Thank you :)
 
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He was calling me an unregenerate and even though it is a theological concept he put it in very maligning way.
you can take it that way but it wasn't meant that. i was stating it as truth and not as an attack, but sometimes the truth attacks people's beliefs
 
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By respect to it's nature in theology, it can be rather ambiguous when people use it in daily conversation. :scratch:

In Christian terminology, an unregenerate person can still be morally good, but be unregenerate in terms of salvation. That is to say, their character is still extensively depraved (as opposed to intensively). It's a tricky thing and I'd rather not get into a discussion on this thread for fear of both making things worse (possibly), and derailing the thread. :sorry:
yes this is what i meant
 
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He indirectly means that since I am not a Christian I have no right to pray to his God and I don't know how many of you here think this way.
i didn't say you have no right to pray to my God. i was saying that according to my beliefs you would need to believe in that God to get the desired out of your prayer.
 
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I, in million years is not going to believe that people can be called unregenerate on this basis. A person who is not bad at will no matter whatever God he believes in, can't be an unregenerate. And according to your criteria, people who do not follow a particular God at all are unregenerate, it sounds very shallow no offence.

And Like I said, You can feel happy calling others whatever you want and maligning them.....it doesn't make any difference to me. Period!

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/unregenerate
it's not about feeling happy. i think i have better things to do than to say something that you don't like on here. with respect to the other part. if you believed something then you would follow it right? well i believe the bible so i believe other beliefs are wrong. that's not shallow. it's my beliefs
 
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