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Diligently.
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Please give in depth views on how we can do this, as well as debate in good taste.

Why don't we make it a habit to tell others what we enjoy about their posts, as well as what we don't.

Blessings. Rev.
 

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Why don't we make it a habit to tell others what we enjoy about their posts, as well as what we don't.​

I enjoy seeing somebody step up to the plate and ask that we conduct ourselves in a Christ-like manner. Too often people, including myself, will allow themselves to come close to an all out fist-fight : if it wasn't for the fact that we are geographically separated. Shameful.

I don't enjoy acronyms.
 
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revduane said:
Diligently.
Edify.
Brothers and sisters in Christ.
At.
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Everyday.

Please give in depth views on how we can do this, as well as debate in good taste.

Why don't we make it a habit to tell others what we enjoy about their posts, as well as what we don't.

Blessings. Rev.

we could start by banning Predestination like the Anglicans tried to do hundreds of years ago . :p
 
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revduane said:
Diligently.
Edify.
Brothers and sisters in Christ.
At.
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Everyday.

Please give in depth views on how we can do this, as well as debate in good taste.

Why don't we make it a habit to tell others what we enjoy about their posts, as well as what we don't.

Blessings. Rev.

You know, I tried to debate in a friendly manner just the other day, because I realized that at times I could be quite sarcastic. And so I made an earnest effort to try to change that.

The interesting thing is that even when I tried to do this, to have a civil discussion, it wasn't long before a few people launched a full assault on me and my church. These people, of course, have been doing this ever since I became a member here; and they, from what I have seen, do this to all protestants, and without mercy nonetheless! Need I say more?

Now, I don't mind people questioning what I believe, but it would be nice if they wouldn't be so rude and obnoxious about it.

So my conclusion is: It seems to make little difference whether you are nice in these forums, because there are people who will still do everything that they can to ruin your day.

Nevertheless, I will still try to be nice:)
 
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revduane said:
Diligently.
Edify.
Brothers and sisters in Christ.
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Everyday.

Please give in depth views on how we can do this, as well as debate in good taste.

Why don't we make it a habit to tell others what we enjoy about their posts, as well as what we don't.

Blessings. Rev.


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Some thoughts...


1. Since I believe that the "one holy catholic church" is a spiritual reality not any particular institutional congregation (or association thereof), I accept ALL believers as my FULL brothers and sisters in Christ. I'm often stunned at how true that is, how I can speak to a Greek Orthodox and Pentecostal and liberal Episcopalian and traditional Lutheran - and there is a bond of faith there that is nothing less than amazing, wonderful, beautiful...


2. Western Christianity, especially, seems very focused on doctrine rather than spirituality or life. We see that clearly revealed in forums like this that are pretty much about what doctrines we believe in and why.


3. We agree with each other FAR more than we disagree. Consider that all of us here acribe to the Creed. Consider the things we are all agreeing with!!!! When I was taking membership classes in BOTH my Protestant and Catholic congregations, what amazed me was how nearly identical they were, not how different they were. Sometimes, in my Catholic class, I would state exactly how my Protestant teacher explained it - rarely (very rarely) did the Priest say he disagreed, although sometimes he'd share that he'd place the emphasis differently or word it a tad differently. I did the same the other way around, with much the same results. And MOST (not all) of the time, the clear disagreements were in areas both agreed were pretty moot (does it matter if Mary was always a virgin or ascended into heaven when she died???).


4. We do disagree on some points. It's understandably, we focus on where we disagree. Can you image a presidential debate on TV where the Republican and Democratic candidates began with how they agree? We'd spend the first 10 hours with them saying 'yes' to each other! But, this natural focus on our differences is misleading - especially to the seekers who come here and see what we do to each other...


5. The discussions here can get very passionate - even personal. I DO understand that. For many of us, our faith is the "ground of our being" the most important aspect of our lives, perhaps the one thing we'd literally die for. Our relationship to God is a very intimate, personal thing! When we interpret something as an attack on that faith, it's understandable we feel hurt and come back fighting. And it's understandable when people shout (big or cap or bold letters) and get personal. BUT, while I understand such, I think we ALL need to keep that in check. Most of the time it's not intentional. There's a LOT of passion here and we're all exposing our hearts to each other.


6. I see 'DEBATE' as the process of convincing people that one side is right and the other wrong. Its goal is conversion to our way of thinking, believing, behaving. I think that 'DEBATE' is inappropriate in an interdenominational forum like this. We need to embrace each other as FULL brothers and sisters in Christ (nothing 'separted' or 'apostate'). We need to embrace each other's sincerity, integrity, etc. When we get to heaven, you will ALL discover that I'm correct about everything, and that's good enough for me.


7. I see this as a DISCUSSION forum. A place to share and learn - and hopefully encourage and support each other. Most of us don't need to come to a website to get our faith torn apart. Here is a place we can share what we believe - and why, what we embrace in our hearts - and what it means to us. We can ask GENUINE questions and learn! But always remember points #4 and #5.


MY $0.01...


Keep the faith! Share the love!


- Josiah


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CaliforniaJosiah said:
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Some thoughts...


1. Since I believe that the "one holy catholic church" is a spiritual reality not any particular institutional congregation (or association thereof), I accept ALL believers as my FULL brothers and sisters in Christ. I'm often stunned at how true that is, how I can speak to a Greek Orthodox and Pentecostal and liberal Episcopalian and traditional Lutheran - and there is a bond of faith there that is nothing less than amazing, wonderful, beautiful...


2. Western Christianity, especially, seems very focused on doctrine rather than spirituality or life. We see that clearly revealed in forums like this that are pretty much about what doctrines we believe in and why.


3. We agree with each other FAR more than we disagree. Consider that all of us here acribe to the Creed. Consider the things we are all agreeing with!!!! When I was taking membership classes in BOTH my Protestant and Catholic congregations, what amazed me was how nearly identical they were, not how different they were. Sometimes, in my Catholic class, I would state exactly how my Protestant teacher explained it - rarely (very rarely) did the Priest say he disagreed, although sometimes he'd share that he'd place the emphasis differently or word it a tad differently. I did the same the other way around, with much the same results. And MOST (not all) of the time, the clear disagreements were in areas both agreed were pretty moot (does it matter if Mary was always a virgin or ascended into heaven when she died???).


4. We do disagree on some points. It's understandably, we focus on where we disagree. Can you image a presidential debate on TV where the Republican and Democratic candidates began with how they agree? We'd spend the first 10 hours with them saying 'yes' to each other! But, this natural focus on our differences is misleading - especially to the seekers who come here and see what we do to each other...


5. The discussions here can get very passionate - even personal. I DO understand that. For many of us, our faith is the "ground of our being" the most important aspect of our lives, perhaps the one thing we'd literally die for. Our relationship to God is a very intimate, personal thing! When we interpret something as an attack on that faith, it's understandable we feel hurt and come back fighting. And it's understandable when people shout (big or cap or bold letters) and get personal. BUT, while I understand such, I think we ALL need to keep that in check. Most of the time it's not intentional. There's a LOT of passion here and we're all exposing our hearts to each other.


6. I see 'DEBATE' as the process of convincing people that one side is right and the other wrong. Its goal is conversion to our way of thinking, believing, behaving. I think that 'DEBATE' is inappropriate in an interdenominational forum like this. We need to embrace each other as FULL brothers and sisters in Christ (nothing 'separted' or 'apostate'). We need to embrace each other's sincerity, integrity, etc. When we get to heaven, you will ALL discover that I'm correct about everything, and that's good enough for me.


7. I see this as a DISCUSSION forum. A place to share and learn - and hopefully encourage and support each other. Most of us don't need to come to a website to get our faith torn apart. Here is a place we can share what we believe - and why, what we embrace in our hearts - and what it means to us. We can ask GENUINE questions and learn! But always remember points #4 and #5.


MY $0.01...


Keep the faith! Share the love!


- Josiah


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what is true is that there is disagreement.

what is not true is that there is no disagreement with God's written spoken Word.

there is no room for duality in God's kingdom.

having said that i know there is a breath of distance here betweeen God, me and you.

first off you like to think we should all be kind and respectful of each other.

therefore that in and of itself contradicts the Holy Word.

Jesus as did all the Holy Prophets had no respect for others ideas about worshipping god, all the idolatries and all the not gods that surrounded them from all the assyrian myth gods turned into stone were not acceptable.

the jews became another branch of the myth gods living in sin as they did under pharoah and God was angry with them for not living according to the laws of Heaven as spoken by that I AM" the mouth of moses the same word of God,

Jesus neither did he make comproimises for the Word, it was
God or naught.

so all this may be for the business of the christian forums here but it is not conducive all the time to be here.
God never has an opinion it just is His way or the highway, and if you don't believe then read your
Bible again, Torah or new testament.

the same will apply in the latter days either you will sing the song of Moses, rev 14:3, 15:3 or you will die the death of carnal life.. and go onto ........

if you want to disagree, it's your perogative , but you will reap the consequences.

do you know those consequences?

anything wrong with this post?
 
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My two biggest problems that cause me to forget myself is being lumped in to a denominational category in which I don't agree with just because I have a couple similar beliefs of one. and the other is posing a question to someone in response to a assertion they made, then they ignore the question and just keep saying the assertion. I think I should just learn to ignore such things.

Anyway I haven't been on this forum for that long, but I have been doing forum style talks for several years, you think I would learn by now.

I think we should all read the forum rules again especially number 2, this will promote good discussion and hopfully keep the conversation on topic and about the topic only.

Chris
 
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I think that it comes down to faith and prayer.

Why faith? Because if I have faith, I will be content to simply and humbly speak the truth in love, and leave the final convicting and convincing to the Holy Spirit. I will realize that I don't have to win the argument at all costs for God's truth to prevail, but that I can safely trust God to take what I have said and make it real to the person as only He can.

Why prayer? Because if we truly want to convince someone of the truth of what we are saying, the best thing we can do is pray for them, and ask God to change their hearts. If we would spend more time in prayer, and less in debate, I think a lot more would be accomplished.

Just my 2 cents.

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Hey, that's not "debate", that's "Debasicatfe". :sorry:
Although it can't be proven in anyone verse in the Bible but I believe that is speaking in acronym tongues.....brooomcheee!

Seriously though, I think people have to realize that an internet message board is limited in it's ability to have a real, face to face discussion or debate, with this there is no substitute. All parties have got to learn how not to jump to conclusions about what someone has said. I don't really believe in news years resolutions but it certainly is a resolution I need to take up because I'm guilty of doing this just like most people are. It's so easy to get coned into believeing that you know exactly what the person meant when alot of times I've found out down the road that I was wrong. And alot of times people have taken me the wrong way thinking I was angry and lashing out at them and in turn then being mad and lashing out at me when it really wasn't the case at all.

This of course this wont do away with all in house fighting but I think it would, to a degree, help in preventing alot of bad blood and or bad feelings between people. Patience is the key.
 
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