Cyber Rape

[elephunky]

Everyone is online (more or less) sure. But no one is forcing people into social networks where they are bullied or forcing anyone to post nude selfies. I get that the desire to be accepted and belong is very strong, really I do, but surely there comes a point where even the loneliest introvert can recognise that they're involved in a toxic online community, and that its time to leave.?

So I guess the logic is...if you are being harassed, bullied etc then the victim should leave rather than the bullying and harassment be dealt with?

Posting nude selfies and entrusting pictures to a partner are two different things.

 

[seashale76]

Neither the woman who sent someone naked pics of herself nor the man who posted them on the internet are innocent. They're both culpable for being idiots and are both wrong. She wasn't 'raped' here and I think it is undermining what actual rape victims go through to equate finding naked pics of herself on-line that she took and sent someone to being sexually assaulted. Honestly- I can see why these two dated each other. They're about on the same level and likely deserve each other.

 

[Armoured]

So I guess the logic is...if you are being harassed, bullied etc then the victim should leave rather than the bullying and harassment be dealt with?

Posting nude selfies and entrusting pictures to a partner are two different things.

Is it wrong to think people should leave an unhealthy online community UNTILL the problem is dealt with? Must it be either/or? Can't both the perpetrators be dealt with AND the victim display sensible online behaviour?

I'm married to someone I've been in a relationship with, in one form or another, for 15 years. If we shared intimate photos and they were leaked, that would be a pretty significant and unexpected breach of trust. How long had this girl been in this relationship though? Of course I'm not saying you need to be with someone 15 years before photo sharing, if thats what you're in to, but lets be honest here, people can be VERY ready to share risque photos online with people they barely know as an acquaintance, let alone a genuine intimate partner. And hey, I'm sure most of the time it works out fine, and everyone involved has a lot of fun. But lets not be naive and pretend its a shock that some people turn out to be cads, and fwd your pics as soon as they get them.

again, lets not reductio ad absurdam. No one is saying not to have intimate cyber relationships. Just, you know, be sensible. Sure we should make things uncomfortable for the bros and scumbag stacys who fwd all revenge pics. But at the end of the day, if someone does give you naked photos of themselves without making you sign a non disclosure contract, they shouldn't be TOO shocked when they end up in someone else's spank bank. Its really pretty simple, if you absolutely dont want nude photos of you out there, don't take any or give anyone any. I would also caution that anyone trying to pressure anyone into taking nude selfies is probably not the sort of person who you should trust with them.

 

[Armoured]

Neither the woman who sent someone naked pics of herself nor the man who posted them on the internet are innocent. They're both culpable for being idiots and are both wrong. She wasn't 'raped' here and I think it is undermining what actual rape victims go through to equate finding naked pics of herself on-line that she took and sent someone to being sexually assaulted. Honestly- I can see why these two dated each other. They're about on the same level and likely deserve each other.

In fairness, it IS a significant breach of trust, and I can see why she would feel violated and upset. But I agree with you that its really a whole different magnitude to an actual physical assault.

 

[CounselorForChrist]

Neither the woman who sent someone naked pics of herself nor the man who posted them on the internet are innocent. They're both culpable for being idiots and are both wrong. She wasn't 'raped' here and I think it is undermining what actual rape victims go through to equate finding naked pics of herself on-line that she took and sent someone to being sexually assaulted. Honestly- I can see why these two dated each other. They're about on the same level and likely deserve each other.

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QFT

 

[Gadarene]

There should be a law to protect your emotions because you're too stupid to consider consequences before you act? There should be a law requiring nanny-statist ninnies like you to be sent to gulags.

which is of course not at all worse than wanting someone to be imprisoned for circulating private images

 

[RDKirk]

And I'll mention again, every state already has laws making public humiliation a civil offense. This woman is already taking action under that law, and we have yet to see how the court will rule on her complaint.

It should also be noted that civil offenses require a lesser standard of proof than criminal offenses...which is how OJ Simpson was found guilty under a civil offense when he could not under a criminal offense.

In this case, for instance, if this were a criminal offense, it might be very difficult for the woman to prove both that she could not herself have released the images and that nobody could have stolen the man's laptop and released the images--and she would have to prove both issues to convict him of a criminal offense, because both are reasonable possibilities.

But that standard won't be necessary in a civil suit.

 

[Ana the Ist]

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So I haven't heard of cyber rape before, so I guess it exists. What I don't understand is this: why? Why would you wanna send someone provocative photos of yourself? I have no sympathy for her, because she knew there is a possibility that the photos would be found on the internet. Why is that? It's the internet, and almost everything can be googled that a person posts. Also, how is it "rape"? All I gotta say is this: people are too sensitive and lack moral character and fortitude.

I gotta agree here...100 percent. It's a bad decision on the girl's part and she should have no legal recourse against the boy. She gave him the picture, and in doing so, she lost any say in what happens to the picture thereafter. We wouldn't accept this argument in any other circumstance would we? Suppose a guy gave a girl a car. She then uses the car to go out on a date with a different guy. The guy who gave the car wants to sue her for the value of the car saying that they had an understanding that the car would only be used on dates with the guy who gave it. We would probably laugh at this guy and dismiss the case....he can't give away an item and then try to dictate what happens with it. It's silly.

A girl giving a guy an explicit photo on the internet with the expectation that only he sees it would be like a girl undressing in front of an open window with the expectation that only the guy across the street will see. She's an idiot, plain and simple.

I'd also like to add that some girls do this as a way of getting attention. It's certainly not always the case, but it happens. Girls who post nude or partially nude photos online are often considered "s-words" (idk if that word is against forum rules) and yet they can become famous for their 15 mins because of it. So how can they get the attention without the negative reputation? Play the victim of a cruel ex-bf...they're "innocent" in all of it...

Good parenting fixes much of this problem.