Currents and formers . . .

[BGMCFAR]

DRl I'm sorry for you not feeling wanted, but remember this Christ has never forgotten you in Isa 49 He tells us I have not forgotten you see I've inscibed your name in the palms of my hands. I don't know your situation, but I'll bet if you were a doctor and a large contributor to the church they would have fallin all over themselves to get you back in the church Never forget DRL Jesus loves you very much

 

[Kolya]

 

[sentipente]

Amazing testimonials.

 

[Kolya]

 

[Byfaithalone1]

BFA, God to see a familiar name or two over here...

My own sda wife has accused me of having satan control my Bible study as I am being led in a different course than adventists follow.

And I have been acused of going to hell because I eat meat.

And she refuses to pray with me as she worships God and I don't. (according to her)

Pretty harsh but probably a mainstream sda view.

Joey

Very sad. My heart goes out to you. Although much of my family remains SDA, my wife and I were 100% on the same page about leaving. That was a real blessing.

BFA

 

[Sophia7]

Very sad. My heart goes out to you. Although much of my family remains SDA, my wife and I were 100% on the same page about leaving. That was a real blessing.

BFA

I'm thankful that my husband and I have been on the same page for the most part, too. There have been times when I've wondered where we would both end up on some issues, and we're still sorting through a lot of things, but through it all our relationship has stayed strong. My heart also goes out to Joey and others whose spouses are not in agreement with them and not accepting of their decisions.

 

[sentipente]

All these as different manifestations of the original sin that was committed in Eden; the idea that we can separate ourselves from each other.

 

[Kolya]

 

[DRL]

DRl I'm sorry for you not feeling wanted, but remember this Christ has never forgotten you in Isa 49 He tells us I have not forgotten you see I've inscibed your name in the palms of my hands. I don't know your situation, but I'll bet if you were a doctor and a large contributor to the church they would have fallin all over themselves to get you back in the church Never forget DRL Jesus loves you very much

Hi BGMCFAR, that was so many years ago and when I was informed my name was no longer on the church books, I did not care. I do not want to sound like I am not wanted because I have been a born again Christian for 4 years now. I was just relating what happened to me and how I used to be as an SDA. I go to a church where the people love me and when I am not there they miss me. That feels so good as the church has 5 services every week end-2 on Saturday evening and 3 on Sunday morning. In other words, the church has a lot of people. I have known, especially in the past 4 years, how much Jesus loves me. I am a child of the King and for that I am so thankful.
DRL

 

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

All these as different manifestations of the original sin that was committed in Eden; the idea that we can separate ourselves from each other.

Interesting you bringsy this up Senti. Moriah just tonight bes thinksy how we make concessions when it comes to forgiveness -- how we have these hardness-of-heart-divorcelike-clauses for it and try to divide it away from reconciliation. But in God's scheme of things the two bes related, the one being the foundation of the other -- not the latter (reconciliation) being an option even if the former (forgiveness) bes required.

It speaks of such times as we say we can both forgive and yet cut ties or write people off or out of our lives. That may be a concession to protect ourselves which God tolerates for the sake of the hardness of our hearts, but as you have so rightly and astutely pointed out, "from the beginning this bes not so." (ref. to Matthew 19:8)

Here bes its writ from another place upon this wise:

... when we do not forgive we makes our own hearts hardened, and the love of God cannot freely flow in us and between us. That hardness inside holds us in bondage, wrecks all discernment (which requires love freely flowing unhindered as its foundational basis for functioning at all), skews our perceptions and screws our judgment into the cesspit. [...] We all know real forgiveness generally bes so complete it can result in pure "reset" where we fail to "protect" ourselves. God would have us this way, trusting entirely in His protection, but in this world bes it ever so hard to be perfect in all things with the social and emotional environment so toxic in our world at large (not here specifically but in a general sense of "sin-tainted human society"). And so while He asks of us everything, He accepts from us exactly what we CAN offer Him.* So just as Moses for the hardness of mens' hearts permitted divorcings, so we bes permitted a convention to not hold forgiveness as any form of future obligation to the one forgiven. So there bes concession for them what needsy. But God's full blessing involves forgiveness as a basis for reconciliation, for them what bes able to bear it. For them whats not so able, go in peace.
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* Telaquapacky should recognize that line.