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Okay but you also realize in the time you spent creating this post, you could ACTUALLY prove your point, prove him/her wrong, and silence them.
Okay but you also realize in the time you spent creating this post, you could ACTUALLY prove your point, prove him/her wrong, and silence them.
Just seems like a waste of time to complain too much at length.
When it comes to providing sources for other posters, personally, I do it with the assumption that most posters who disagree with probably not look. I do it for my PERSONAL integrity and the integrity of my own argument. They can take that information and do what they want with it but I PERSONALLY think that without good evidence my argument is weaker and I don't like that.
Smart guy.
Just like the assignment listend above we ask the kids to do it for themselves. The kids define their identities based on where they are at, what they value and what "groups" they are a part of. This includes innocuous safe groups (hockey teams, church groups, homework clubs) and others (nationality, religion, etc....). It's up to the KIDS to say their identities.
Based on his/her few posts, I don't get that feeling from leafniggle.I was actually thinking of the other person who keeps repeatedly asking for evidence and yet doesn't seem to want to actually discuss anything other than the perceived quality of what has been already given. It may all be innocent, but well...just call me suspicious.
I disagree. This is the internet. People pull stuff ALL the time "like that". Quoting out of context.If I'm asked for evidence, I provide evidence (assuming my claim isn't opinion).
I did that.
To be completely honest, the suggestion that the evidence provided is elaborately faked is not a legitimate complaint.
If that poster and I are to proceed...he has to explain what he will accept. Anyone can claim any evidence is elaborately faked. Think of flat-earthers and young earth creationists.
See the beautiful thing about the soft/social science is that saying "you're wrong" gets kinda........nothing. Because there are so many people espousing contradictory views through it all that best, what you'd get from someone like me is that I disagree with thta person.To me there is far more value in exposing how intellectually bereft the request is.
I'll continue, I'll provide evidence....but I need to know 2 things.
What do you consider valid evidence that you are wrong?
If that is provided....what will your response be?
Well it's on them. You've done your due dilligence and you can rest in the comfort of that.I hear ya @rambot ....but it's the second time this thread already. What if the next ten posters ask the same thing then reject the same evidence for the same poor reasons?
The only way to show that is to consistently PROVIDE evidence that then gets avoided. But to say "I'm not providing evidence because you'll ignore it" doesn't prove that they don't consider evidence.At a point, it's more useful to show these people don't consider evidence. It's a bit like every argument I've had with an evolution denier....they ask for evidence, I provide, they say it's not really evidence.
Yes, everyone is racist. Me tooThis is a dogmatic line of thinking. I think people fundamentally defend it because it is a way of telling others "I'm a good person, I'm not racist". Sadly, they don't understand that according to CRT that's not possible....they are always racist and always will be racist in this worldview.
Censors have little incentive to "prove" their points -- their cheerleaders have even less.
I've been going back and forth as to whether or not you're being sea lioned.
Based on his/her few posts, I don't get that feeling from leafniggle.
I guess that's ANOTHER lesson in bias right?
Nor does CRT.Germany doesn't tell young Germans that in their society that every German is an anti-Semite and they are responsible for "fixing the past".
The cause for massive wealth inequality? Some say blacks are inherently lazy or immoral. You don't believe that, do you?What is the cause for this?
Equality of individual outcomes is not expected. But massive inequality of an entire class of people that comprises 14% of the population proves there is a problem.Equality of outcomes is not, nor ever has been, the goal of the US.
Individual liberty was violated by slavery, Jim Crow, redlining, lynching, forced segregation, violent displacement, eminent domain, etc. The black businessmen of Tulsa built a great business community, before it was all taken from them. Social progress against racism has only ever advanced following public protests.The point has been individual liberty. You can spend your time building a business....or you can spend your time protesting social issues.
They did not make the choice to be born into a family that had their wealth taken from them by violence.The person protesting has no reason to complain they aren't as wealthy as the businessman. That's a choice they made.
The point has been proven.
If that is your objection
I disagree. This is the internet. People pull stuff ALL the time "like that". Quoting out of context.
See the beautiful thing about the soft/social science is that saying "you're wrong" gets kinda........nothing. Because there are so many people espousing contradictory views through it all that best, what you'd get from someone like me is that I disagree with thta person.
Well it's on them. You've done your due dilligence and you can rest in the comfort of that.
At least, that's my attitude. Sure it's frustrating, but again, it's an online discussion forum, that chances of having a meaningful impact on another person is preeeetty small.
The only way to show that is to consistently PROVIDE evidence that then gets avoided. But to say "I'm not providing evidence because you'll ignore it" doesn't prove that they don't consider evidence.
Yes, everyone is racist. Me too
I think I'm a good person still. I have to let go of my old definition of racism (in much the same way I had to let go of my use and definition of the word "queer"...I loved that word). But it's just a word.
I'm doing parent teacher interviews this afternoon and my break is done. Now I gotta deal with some parents. Wish me luck and have a good evening. Don't get too frustrated by this place. Just do right by you.
Neither by nor to anyone whose opinion matters in a society where censorship is the norm.
You're not paying attention. I'm not objecting to anything -- because you're not a censor, I'm questioning its relevance.
When censorship is the norm, only the censors' opinions matter.
The Tulsa race massacre was not a small incident. Here is a list of at least seven of the best books written about the Tulsa race massacre. List of Tulsa Race Massacre books. This incident was every bit as significant in American history as Paul Revere's ride to Lexington. But I am ashamed to say I had not heard of it until about 3 years ago, because it was not taught when I went to school. CRT examines, among other things, they way the selection of what we remember and what we choose to forget defines us as a nation.I don't have a problem with teaching that. But I have to ask why Is it necessary to learn about every single event in the history of the US that was racially motivated?
You don't think the Virginia Department of Education is a legitimate source of information about what is taught in Virginia schools?
What is the problem with it's relevance?
More than 60% of American parents want their kids to learn about the ongoing effects of slavery and racism as part of their education, according to a new USA TODAY/Ipsos poll.
But just half of parents support teaching critical race theory in schools – even though the theory's main premise is that racism continues to permeate society. About 4 in 10 parents support restrictions on schools' ability to teach critical race theory.
Cultivating awareness.
Interesting:
Parents' disconnect on critical race theory has enflamed elections
Take away the scary buzzwords, and parents will let their children be taught...
See how easy it is to get around the censors?
The censors will label whatever they don't want as deserving of censorship... that's how it works.
Do try to remember what I've said many times before -- I only object to government censorship on general principle...
Oh. That's not my job to detect exactly which biases affect a student. I'm not making any evaluative comments about student in that context.No, I'm sorry...
What I'm asking is how you....a teacher....would be able to detect what biases are affecting a student.
It kinda depends on what you mean by "labels".Maybe they shouldn't yet decide on labels for themselves.
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