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Correct me if I'm wrong but I think there's quite a bit of evidence that much of human evolution occurred in an equatorial or tropical kind of environment. It certainly explains some things such as the reason we lost our hair and the reason we walk upright (much better ventilation for our heads).TrueAuthority said:What i dont really get is...
If natural selection is true, why in the world would it choose us? we arent equipped to handle the wild/forest.. There are animals ten times as stronger/faster than us.
And how do you suppose we made it through winter?
But i guess what most people will tell me is that we somehow "mutated" into something better with bigger brains and the natural selection process "knew" this and chose us to be the dominant species.. I still dont understand why us?
not really. I think that you have been misguided as to how evolution works. basically the principle is that differences in individuals in a breeding population lead to cetain individuals having more children than others. This means that on average, the population will become more like them. This is called differential reproductive success (natural selection is included in ths). mutations may also occur which create more variation in the population, and these might be either beneficial or detrimental. Now as for humans we are not entirely sure what the environment was that resulted in selection for our traits, and it is bound to be quite complex anyway. clearly one of the important dactors was bipedality - standing on two legs, since this is seen in the earliest homimid ancestors such as Lucy. Bipedality has a few advantages that we know of, for one thing, it is more energy efficient than knuckle walking, enabling the new bipeds to be able to cover longer distances along flat terrain. Bipedality also frees up the hads for other things, such as throwing rocks and stuff like that, which may have been very useful against predators. These changes were occuring around the same time that the forest was receeding on the african plains, and turning into the savannah that e see today. The forest existed mostly as little islands with large open spaces between them. The differential reproductive success I spoke of earlier will have acted in favour of those who could survive in this sort of environment. The rise of intelligence and so on will have come later, along with tool making and so on, which again gave those with the ability, a better advantage over those who did not have it. i.,e. if you can make a sharp stone, you can not only scare a predator, but might kill it too, or you can use it to injure prey while it is quite far away and then using those awesome running skills (humans have the best long distance stamina of any animal) you can follow the prey while it bleeds to death. (many of the ealiest tools were like bladed frisbees)TrueAuthority said:What i dont really get is...
If natural selection is true, why in the world would it choose us? we arent equipped to handle the wild/forest.. There are animals ten times as stronger/faster than us.
And how do you suppose we made it through winter?
But i guess what most people will tell me is that we somehow "mutated" into something better with bigger brains and the natural selection process "knew" this and chose us to be the dominant species.. I still dont understand why us?
you know it is junk like that which really makes me think that this forum needs a "back up your conspiriacy theories" rule.Pilgrim 33 said:first thing you have to do is realize that God and lies do not mix and what the public schools are cramming down your throats are lies. Their entire purpose is to little by little, so that over the years from Grade one all the way through college, they have gradually turned you away from and against God.
TrueAuthority said:What i dont really get is...
If natural selection is true, why in the world would it choose us?
TrueAuthority said:we arent equipped to handle the wild/forest..
TrueAuthority said:There are animals ten times as stronger/faster than us.
TrueAuthority said:And how do you suppose we made it through winter?
TrueAuthority said:But i guess what most people will tell me is that we somehow "mutated" into something better with bigger brains and the natural selection process "knew" this and chose us to be the dominant species..
Any sentient animal would ask the same question, and these niche would eventually be filled, the beings that filled it just happn to be hairless apesTrueAuthority said:
I still dont understand why us?
Jet Black said:not really. I think that you have been misguided as to how evolution works. basically the principle is that differences in individuals in a breeding population lead to cetain individuals having more children than others. This means that on average, the population will become more like them. This is called differential reproductive success (natural selection is included in ths). mutations may also occur which create more variation in the population, and these might be either beneficial or detrimental. Now as for humans we are not entirely sure what the environment was that resulted in selection for our traits, and it is bound to be quite complex anyway. clearly one of the important dactors was bipedality - standing on two legs, since this is seen in the earliest homimid ancestors such as Lucy. Bipedality has a few advantages that we know of, for one thing, it is more energy efficient than knuckle walking, enabling the new bipeds to be able to cover longer distances along flat terrain. Bipedality also frees up the hads for other things, such as throwing rocks and stuff like that, which may have been very useful against predators. These changes were occuring around the same time that the forest was receeding on the african plains, and turning into the savannah that e see today. The forest existed mostly as little islands with large open spaces between them. The differential reproductive success I spoke of earlier will have acted in favour of those who could survive in this sort of environment. The rise of intelligence and so on will have come later, along with tool making and so on, which again gave those with the ability, a better advantage over those who did not have it. i.,e. if you can make a sharp stone, you can not only scare a predator, but might kill it too, or you can use it to injure prey while it is quite far away and then using those awesome running skills (humans have the best long distance stamina of any animal) you can follow the prey while it bleeds to death. (many of the ealiest tools were like bladed frisbees)
this is just some of the early stuff, but I hope it helps dispel a few of the myths about how evolution progresses, that you seem to have aquired.
Thanks.Jet Black said:not really. I think that you have been misguided as to how evolution works. basically the principle is that differences in individuals in a breeding population lead to cetain individuals having more children than others. This means that on average, the population will become more like them. This is called differential reproductive success (natural selection is included in ths). mutations may also occur which create more variation in the population, and these might be either beneficial or detrimental. Now as for humans we are not entirely sure what the environment was that resulted in selection for our traits, and it is bound to be quite complex anyway. clearly one of the important dactors was bipedality - standing on two legs, since this is seen in the earliest homimid ancestors such as Lucy. Bipedality has a few advantages that we know of, for one thing, it is more energy efficient than knuckle walking, enabling the new bipeds to be able to cover longer distances along flat terrain. Bipedality also frees up the hads for other things, such as throwing rocks and stuff like that, which may have been very useful against predators. These changes were occuring around the same time that the forest was receeding on the african plains, and turning into the savannah that e see today. The forest existed mostly as little islands with large open spaces between them. The differential reproductive success I spoke of earlier will have acted in favour of those who could survive in this sort of environment. The rise of intelligence and so on will have come later, along with tool making and so on, which again gave those with the ability, a better advantage over those who did not have it. i.,e. if you can make a sharp stone, you can not only scare a predator, but might kill it too, or you can use it to injure prey while it is quite far away and then using those awesome running skills (humans have the best long distance stamina of any animal) you can follow the prey while it bleeds to death. (many of the ealiest tools were like bladed frisbees)
this is just some of the early stuff, but I hope it helps dispel a few of the myths about how evolution progresses, that you seem to have aquired.
no problemTrueAuthority said:Thanks.
tons of evidence, references, and links have already been provided on this message board alone, not to mention all the other christian message boards. also, public school systems are humanistic oriented institutions.Jet Black said:you know it is junk like that which really makes me think that this forum needs a "back up your conspiriacy theories" rule.
Wow... Just wow...Pilgrim 33 said:tons of evidence, references, and links have already been provided on this message board alone, not to mention all the other christian message boards. also, you are far too young to make such an uninformed judgment. kindly research before posting inanities. public school systems are humanistic oriented institutions.
o&btw, evolution IS a conspiracy! The only option left for those refusing God is evolution!
Tons? Then you shouldn't have any trouble at all providing three or four links.Pilgrim 33 said:tons of evidence, references, and links have already been provided on this message board alone, not to mention all the other christian message boards.
Oh? I guess my principal forgot to mention that.also, you are far too young to make such an uninformed judgment. kindly research before posting inanities. public school systems are humanistic oriented institutions.
As was, I suppose, the entire 20th Century.o&btw, evolution IS a conspiracy!
False dichotomies are fun.The only option left for those refusing God is evolution!
Perhaps the single biggest problems for those espousing evolution is that they place their own pride before even the scientific aspects they claim to believe.ProbePhage said:Wow... Just wow...
Randall McNally said:Tons? Then you shouldn't have any trouble at all providing three or four links.
You're not even serious or you'd already be looking up the links yourself.
In any case, humanism isn't a necessarily secular philosophy.
It's total secular humanism. even the u s supreme court years back stated so.
Do you want to borrow my tinfoil hat?Pilgrim 33 said:o&btw, evolution IS a conspiracy! The only option left for those refusing God is evolution!
What size is it?h2whoa said:Do you want to borrow my tinfoil hat?
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It's your claim. You prove it.Pilgrim 33 said:You're not even serious or you'd already be looking up the links yourself.
Then you're obviously too young to enter into a debate way beyond your immaturity else your principal would not have neglected to mention it.
It's total secular humanism. even the u s supreme court years back stated so.
So where's the evil?Yeah, Satan's club has membership worldwide. You cannot mix good and evil.
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