Subduction Zone
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I never said it was disorderly. Quite the opposite is the case. It shows that order can rise up out of chaos.
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I never said it was disorderly. Quite the opposite is the case. It shows that order can rise up out of chaos.Which fits with the biblical narrative. What is disorderly about snow? It requires certain conditions to form, obviously.
I disagree. Love can be explained rationally. Most simply do not want to.The spiritual isn't rational. It's something that's "experienced". Bold, underlined and in quotation marks for emphasis. Maybe I should use caps as well? Experiencing Love isn't rational, as an example. There's no way that rational evidence can describe Love. The knowledge gained of Love has to be experienced to be known. Not everything in the Human experience is rational. In fact I suspect that very little is.
Yes, because there's a point to it!
We aren't here by chance. Chaos didn't create us. We are designed for a purpose.
I get more of a thrill from exploring than about anything.
Rather than design for a purpose, we're here because of the Creativity of Life. If there's a pull towards a purpose, I think it has everything to do with the evolution of consciousness.We are designed for a purpose.
I'd Love to see you give it a try, you would be the first.I disagree. Love can be explained rationally. Most simply do not want to.
My thinking process at the moment I was typing was rational. That's the thinking process. Conscious awareness is being aware. That's a different process. There's no thinking involved in being aware. Just awareness. Have you practiced meditation? A newly born baby is aware, yet they have zero rational thought of any kind.You said consciousness isn't at all rational, yet you were, presumably, conscious and rational when you wrote that.
Your making it more complicated than it is. The American Indians experiencing things around them as verbs rather than nouns is a non-polarity way of consciously experiencing and living Life. It did give them a sense of Sacredness and connection with the life around them, which is why they call animals brothers and sisters.Is that what they call it? And what kind of spiritual perspective is it - 'relating to deep feelings and beliefs' or 'concerned with religious values, supernatural beings, or phenomena'?
There's nothing simple about God.
First science doesn't explain everything. It doesn't even know why everything exists. All it says is how some pieces function. So yes it can be both, given how little we actually know.
Oh...God is simple. It's our religious beliefs and dogma and that make God complicated.There's nothing simple about God.
Drat, I knew I was doing something wrong. I mean it does make it shiny in parts, but the shape changes quite a bit.
OK; in consciousness studies, psychology, and neuroscience, consciousness unqualified is generally taken to comprise a number of characteristics with basic conscious awareness as the core feature. So there's self-awareness, perception, knowledge, experience, deliberative thought, intentionality (representation), imagination, volition, and so-on. Simple awareness is the minimal conscious state, something probably shared by all vertebrates and some other creatures, possibly including some insects.My thinking process at the moment I was typing was rational. That's the thinking process. Conscious awareness is being aware. That's a different process. There's no thinking involved in being aware. Just awareness. Have you practised meditation? A newly born baby is aware, yet they have zero rational thought of any kind.
I was just asking whether it involved what we would term 'supernatural', or not. Away from organised religions and the modern West and its influences, a sense of sacredness and connection with life (and, often, the land itself) is pretty much the default worldview; it's apparent in Africa, India, the Far East (China, Japan, and others), and the Australian aboriginals. In the West, Paganism is based upon the sacredness of nature.Your making it more complicated than it is. The American Indians experiencing things around them as verbs rather than nouns is a non-polarity way of consciously experiencing and living Life. It did give them a sense of Sacredness and connection with the life around them, which is why they call animals brothers and sisters.
Creation. Discovery. Because God created an amazing world for us to explore and learn about.For clarity, when I say I don't think that everything is pointless doesn't imply we were designed for a purpose. I don't view those as dependent ideas.
I'm not sure what this means. Exploring what?
Creation. Discovery. Because God created an amazing world for us to explore and learn about.
It's not criticism. Just a fact.
I can only speak for myself. I see the big picture. Doing the thing in front of me can't be enjoyable unless I know where it fits into that picture. So, for me, no, I could not enjoy learning about a pointless existence where I work so I can eat so I can work so I can eat again until I die. The end. That's not life, it is mere survival.Do you think that a person could find that interesting (e.g. learning about the universe) without a belief in a divine creator?
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