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Creationism vs. The Big Bang

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LOL yup it was that simple He named it and claimed it

I could have sworn the Word spoken was His own Name...anyway.

You know what's interesting? There is no centralized organization of galactic distribution, just spongy fuzz in all directions.

Where is the centre of the universe?

It is important to stress that other observations support the view that there is no centre to the universe, at least insofar as observations can reach. The fact that the universe is expanding uniformly would not rule out the possibility that there is some denser, hotter place that might be called the centre, but careful studies of the distribution and motion of galaxies confirm that it is homogeneous on the largest scales we can see, with no sign of a special point to call the centre.

Here's another very interesting tidbit along the exact same lines I have been explaining: The Big Bang and the Expansion of the Universe

Although space may have been concentrated into a single point at the Big Bang, it is equally possible that space was infinite at the Big Bang. In both scenarios the space was completely filled with matter which began to expand.
 
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You really think we haven't all heard that one before?

The problem is the logic is non-sequitur.

#1 Words require a medium to travel through.
#2 Modulated vibration in water causes cavitations (void bubbles) not explosions.


If God is infinite and self existent prior to the expansion of relative space, there in no extra space to "explode" into. God creates the universe in a Great Contraction by hiding Himself. Just as He does by various means throughout the bible.
 
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Have you ever stopped for a minute and thought logically about the Big Bang Theory? After all the Big Bang is a theory which means a human created it not a God/Creator and does not have any valid proof.

Uhu, who cares about man-made scientific theories, right?
It's not like any of these are important for anything:
- tectonic theory
- germ theory
- evolution theory
- theory of relativity
- theory of atoms
- quantum theory
- theory of electro-magnetism
- ....

I mean, "all they do" is just like... form the basis of our technological society. Who cares, right? It's not ike we need or can trust medicines, combustion engines, turbines, power stations, radio, computers, satelites, airplanes, etc etc etc etc etc etc.

I mean seriously... what's next? Pushing the "power button" to turn on your PC instead of simply praying for it?

These silly scientists.....


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And if Atheists claim Supernatural is impossible

The supernatural is impossible by definition. The difference between "possible" and "impossible" is what the laws of nature allow to happen or not.

For example, it is "impossible" for me to jump from the Eiffel tower without any use of any technology and NOT fall to the earth.

It would take defying the laws of gravity to make that happen. And if that would happen, it would instantly be branded a "supernatural miracle": the impossible happening anyway.


so is the Big Bang Theory because in science there's something called Cause and Effect which means nothing can't come from nothing because it's just impossible

1. causality is a phenomena that applies IN a space-time continuum as it requires a time dimension. No universe = no time = no causality. So no, causality is not a factor in the origins of the universe.

2. the big bang does not say that the universe came from nothing. In fact, it doesn't say anything about how it began. It explains what happened after it began. It starts at Planck time (the very first moment of the universe, when it already exists). Sometimes refered to as the infamous "singularity". NOT "nothing". FYI: the big bang is still ongoing - space is expanding.

for example : Can food be eaten by no one/nothing? Obviously not. Could the computer be created without engineers and scientists? Absolutely not. Can the universe be created without a creator/ Can the big bang occur without a cause?

False comparision. The universe and computers are vastly different things. Different rules apply.

One can easily deny the fact that God exists however no matter how wise he is he must acknowledge that the Universe couldn't be created without a thing (I personally view God as a thing because it just ruins the whole idea of equality between Men and Women which is obviously a great and helpful idea to Humanity) causing it.


By the same logic, your creator requires a creator.
You may begin your special pleading now.


Islam doesn't contribute to humanity in anyway

No religion contributes to anything in any way. Humans contribute. And muslims contributed a LOT, no matter how hard people ignore it. I'll give one example: "algebra", that's an arabic word.

I'd like to hear your opinion about my reply and if you have anything against what i've said i'd like to hear why.

I skipped the rest, because it sounded more like preaching rather then anything else.
 
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