That wasn't the question, You raised the point that you believe a man in sin should not be trusted, I asked if you should be trusted?JohnR7 said:
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That wasn't the question, You raised the point that you believe a man in sin should not be trusted, I asked if you should be trusted?JohnR7 said:We will find out at the rapture who will go with Jesus and who will remain behind. Those who are living free from sin can not die.
I said no, do not trust me, take everything I say to the word of God and see what God has to say about it. Or if it is science check it out for yourself to see if what I say is accurate or not. I expect that people are going to check out what I say and I also expect when they do they will find that I was pretty close to being accurate. Actually, that is a part of why I am here, to test what I say to see if anyone can find any fault in it.I_Love_Cheese said:I asked if you should be trusted?
What was the calculation of the pressure and temp of the atmosphere if there truly was a firmament that could rain enough water for even 1000 feet of flooding?I_Love_Cheese said:not much, the rough average between liquid and gas volume at atmospheric pressure is around 1000:1 so maybe 1/15000 of the water would be necessary to generate 1psi.
sorry, I was not referring to anything specific, only that most gasses have about a 1000:1 ratio between liquid volume and gas volume at atmospheric pressure thus even if air pressure were constant with altitude, 100 miles of pure water vapor would only amount to 500 feet of water.steen said:What was the calculation of the pressure and temp of the atmosphere if there truly was a firmament that could rain enough water for even 1000 feet of flooding?
Of course notJohnR7 said:I said no, do not trust me
Wow!JohnR7 said:take everything I say to the word of God and see what God has to say about it. Or if it is science check it out for yourself to see if what I say is accurate or not. I expect that people are going to check out what I say and I also expect when they do they will find that I was pretty close to being accurate. Actually, that is a part of why I am here, to test what I say to see if anyone can find any fault in it.
The snowball earth is not my theory. I just mention it for anyone that wants to look into it and study up on what science has to say about it. Of course here is another example of where science can be used to verify the Bible. But the main thing is that science helps us come to a better and more accurate understanding of the Bible.kangitanka said:I found fault not only in your so-called "science" but also in your personal interpretation of Genesis 1HERE Post #340 of this thread
Nor would I have any desire to see any harm come to you, John. It was an obscure Monty Python reference. I may not agree with your views, but I certainly don't think any harm should come to anyone simply for holding a different view than my own.JohnR7 said:You would have to go through my wife to get to me and I do not think you will want to mess with the Filipino women.
RiiightJohnR7 said:The snowball earth is not my theory. I just mention it for anyone that wants to look into it and study up on what science has to say about it. Of course here is another example of where science can be used to verify the Bible. But the main thing is that science helps us come to a better and more accurate understanding of the Bible.
Sinning? Do you mean like... oh... lying, perhaps? Lying is a sin, right? So if I were to say... claim I had evidence for something, all the while knowing I didn't, that would be a sin, right?JohnR7 said:We will find out at the rapture who will go with Jesus and who will remain behind. Those who are living free from sin can not die.
kangitanka said:So I was reading through this thread and noticed an interesting exchange regarding Genesis 1
I'll give the salient points of the conversation here-
The word used in Genesis 1 is mayim {mah'-yim}.
It is not 'ice', 'frost' or any other sort of solidified water.
The hebrew word for 'ice' and 'frost' is qerach {keh'-rakh} or qorach {ko'-rakh}, and is specifically mentioned in Job6, Job 38, and Psalms 147. Additionally, snow (another form of solidified water) is likewise mentioned, and it is (in the Hebrew) sheleg {sheh'-leg}. Again, not mayim.
So, beastt has some valid claim in stating that Genesis is speaking of liquid water. JohnR7, on the other hand, conflates mayim with qerach and sheleg.
In a nutshell, Genesis is not speaking of solidified water, and the language bears this out
JohnR7 said:I said no, do not trust me, take everything I say to the word of God and see what God has to say about it. Or if it is science check it out for yourself to see if what I say is accurate or not. I expect that people are going to check out what I say and I also expect when they do they will find that I was pretty close to being accurate. Actually, that is a part of why I am here, to test what I say to see if anyone can find any fault in it.
John, I don't eat animals because they are living, sentient beings. As a sentient being myself, I find it beyond my ethics to thrust another sentient, feeling being into suffering and death when to do so would only be detrimental to all involved.JohnR7 said:The point is that light has no fellowship with darkness. People claim not to "believe" in God, but really they just want to life a life of sin and they want to violate the moral laws of God. So to try to justify themselves they will try to claim that there is no God and that they will NOT be held accountable. But they will be held accountable.
Which is correct.steen said:But you really don't see any YEC enroll in medical school. Their views really xcan't be consolidated with science.
Null sheenBeastt said:Thank you for this additional information, kangitanka.
And in this case, apparently, they did, as opposed to JohnR7's unbased assertionsBeastt said:It seemed to me that if the translators had any level of credibility at all, it would be expected that they would choose the proper English word to match the context in the Bible.
Im sure JohnR7 will 'pooh-pooh' it all away, despite the fact that he is wrongBeastt said:But your information cinches the whole issue.
Something JohnR7 has yet to learnBeastt said:The Bible says "water" because it's referring to liquid water. That won't be convenient for those of opposing desires but reality doesn't bend to desire.
There is no sentient involved with a cow. You are doing them a favor to eat them. But I would prefer not to eat five in a cage factory chickens or their eggs. What is not healthy for them I think is not healthy for me either. Of course you can eat whatever you want, what difference does that make to me. I am just glad that there are a lot of Amish growers around here so I can get food that science has not got a hold of to modify in some way. It use to be that food came out of a kitchen, but now it comes out of a lab, esp. with all the artificial flavor they use. It seems like the more science gets involved, the fatter people get in america and the more unhealthy they are. Esp. when "fast food" is a part of the formula somewhere.Beastt said:John, I don't eat animals because they are living, sentient beings.
That is not accurateJohnR7 said:There is no sentient involved with a cow.
Really?JohnR7 said:You are doing them a favor to eat them.
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